Is this Rose Rosetta Disease? And Recommendations for Replacements
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Comments (39)I know this is an old thread but its been very good and useful so I thought I'd chime in. All the roses i recommend have been mentioned here but I live very close to you in Zone 10 Florida so I thought I'd let you know what has worked in my garden. I have over 50 roses and my best performer is by far Belinda's Dream (you probably have it by now, if not, get it!). Always in bloom all year round, doesn't mind heat/humidity or rain has perfectly formed blooms AND its fragrant. It has it all! One of my other good performers so far have been some Ausitns. My BEST bloomer is Huntington rose, but it does get black spot a bit. I don't spray her so i just prune her a bit after every other flush and she keeps bouncing back. Queen of Sweden has been excellent. Not as big a bloomer as Huntington but NO black spot at all. She does grow TALL though (huntington grows WIDE), So Far she has stayed very narrow and tall. Jubilee celebration has done well but she is too new to tell if she'll get through the rainy season without too much BS. Wollerton Old Hall, great fragrance great BS resistance but bloom color is not my cup of tea (kind of a tan/beige). Alnwick rose has done well too as well as Abraham Darby (tried and true). All my Austins are in planters though, none in the ground. As for HT roses my best performers have been Mr. Lincoln, Olympiad (very good), Gold Medal (also very good), Queen Elizabeth (kind of gangly but blooms alot), iceberg and brilliant pink iceberg are great but grow wide, not tall (they stay short though). Pretty much all my HT get some black spot in the rainy season but i just trim them come fall and they do well all the way until the following May. If you are looking for a more bushy rose try the new KORDES varieties. I have had ABSOLUTELY no black spot on Lion's Fairy Tale and Mandarin Ice, and I hear all the Fairy Tales are just as good as lions. I'm getting a few more this year from that series. OH also don't forget BUCKS roses. Superb! I have Polonaise and Golden Princess and both are great with BS (very very little) but by far the best one has been Quietness! She has NO BS and beautiful fragrant blooms. Very Fragrant! Some roses to stay away from would be Oklahoma, Double delight (every one raves about her but she's a BS magnet in my garden) Angle Face (same). Cherish (love her blooms but same BS issues). I grow most of my roses in planters so you may need to see if you can find any of these on Fortuniana RS. I highly recommend the Kordes ones though, they have really thrived own root with NO disease they stand out like champs. They almost don't even look like rose bushes they are so leafy. Duchess du Brabant has been another good one. She does get a little BS but she seems to shake it off quickly. I just also got Rosette DeLizzy and clotilde soupert but they are still babies so too soon to tell. Good luck and let me know what does well in your garden!...See MoreSuggestions on Replacement Climbing Rose after Rose Rosette
Comments (8)You have my sympathies with RRD! Been there. (Actually, more accurately: being there right now...) #1. I recently had to find the answer to question #1 for myself. The answer I received indicated that 99.99% of the time, one year is long enough to wait for replanting in the same spot as far as coming down with RRD again goes, because if the infected rose is going to regenerate from its infected roots, it will almost surely do so within a year. If it does regenerate from its infected roots, of course, any mites in the area would have the capability of passing the infection to the newly planted rose. You don't necessarily have to wait a year, but you are taking a greater risk if you don't wait that long. I'm going to wait a year. #2. I'm not sure about the answer to #2, except that I know the answer is unrelated to Rose Rosette Disease. The potential reason to avoid using the same hole would be a concern for Rose Replant Disease, which sometimes (or maybe even frequently) does occur in England. I don't know whether it happens on this continent or not, or if it does happen whether it happens frequently enough to worry about. If it were actually sometimes a problem here too, two years would be long enough to wait on replanting in the very same hole. But along a fence, you probably could just easily move the new hole over a bit anyway, right? #3. My Cornelia Hybrid Musk, before succumbing to RRD, liked to throw out extremly long canes that were beautifully flexible and had a zillion little stems with buds on them. So I think Cornelia would be nice on a fence, and it's as beautiful a rose as you can imagine. It's also likely to have fewer disease issues than Golden Showers for most people. (However, it appears that you were quite lucky with Golden Showers there, so maybe you might want to think "Don't fix what ain't broke!") Lots of Hybrid Musks might work. Some: Wilhelm, Prosperity, Bubble Bath, Lavender Lassie. Some other possibilities (that I don't have experience with, but have seen recommended by others): Felix Leclerc, Soaring Spirits, Goldfinch, Rosarium Uetersen (Seminole Wind), Abraham Darby. I do have (a new) Climbing Iceberg and that might work well for you, even though it can get blackspot. New Dawn is supposed to be easy to grow, though it does have more thorns than some other choices. Mortimer Sackler ought to work well, as long as you don't count on too much distance (lovely, fragrant, low thorns, healthy). I'll enclose the link to Help Me Find's website so you can search on whatever varieties you might be interested in. Best wishes, Mary Here is a link that might be useful: HelpMeFind rose search...See More(Some) Good Luck With Disease Resistant Roses In South Florida
Comments (29)You have to be more specific than just "OGR" to find the ones which will do well in Florida. Teas, Chinas, Noisettes, and Tea-Noisettes are just four types of OGRs. 'Louise Odier' is a Bourbon, and while an OGR, probably isn't suitable for Florida. 'The Fairy' is a Polyantha, and with that Multiflora background probably isn't suited to alkaline soils found in much of Florida. Meanwhile, four you mentioned as doing well -- 'Duchesse de Brabant', 'Duquesa', 'Mrs. B. R. Cant', and "Spice" -- are Teas, and Teas thrive in areas with little or no Winter. I have a bunch of Chinas and Teas here in NJ, and they are rarely without bloom through the growing season, but get hit hard by Winters here. Check out Rose Petals Nursery or Angel Gardens -- two Florida rose nurseries -- and search under the Teas, Chinas, Noisettes, and Tea-Noisettes. These types do very well in warm climates, usually blooming all year. Other types of OGRs -- such as Bourbons, Hybrid Perpetuals, Portlands, or the once-blooming types -- likely won't do well for you, though there may be random exceptions. :-) ~Christopher...See MoreSwapping roses for healthier, more disease resistant varieties.
Comments (52)Pink Rose, I know Cool Roses sells a wider variety of roses on their website. The ones on their site is ones that they ship. If there is a certain rose that you are looking for, I would at least suggest calling and asking if they have it. Also, Geoff will do custom grafts. I second SoFl that you should call them; they will bring things to the sale in Orlando. SoFl I love my Nahema and Dames De Chennonceau! They are doing great. Though, I tried to rescue a Nahema that someone else shovel pruned and left by the side of the road. It did not make it. I also lost one that I purchased that was in my "rose pond". I think the roots don't like it if you try and move it. I am glad to know that Edenmy eye on that one. Duchess De Brabant is beautiful, but hated my yard. I think it puts down really deep roots, because it died back in wet time of the year, even though it was not in the pond. Quietness, does well on own root. I dont think it likes to be sprayed though, but it seems to be tough without it....See MoreMoses, Pittsburgh, W. PA., zone 5/6, USA
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