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Rose ID? I’ve heard everything from David Austen to old bourbon.

Madison Roussel

last year

Zone 9a/Southeast Louisiana

Multiple flushes February-April (possibly more—I’m trying to remember!)

Has some fragrance, nothing overwhelming

Attaching pics to show foliage, thorns/prickles, blooms, etc.

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last year

My guess would be 'Mrs. B. R. Cant' as well. Its not an Austin.

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roseseek
last year
It kind of reminds me of Mrs. B. R. Cant. https://helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.4302&tab=1
Brandon Garner
last year
I think Kim is right when he mentions it reminding him of the Tea rose, Mrs. B.R Cant. Something to keep in mind with tea roses is that some of them are changeable enough that within in a growing season it might be hard to believe that the flowers are from the same plant, making identification on tea roses tricky. but I do agree that it looks like a tea rose and having grown Mrs B. R. Cant can see the resemblance
Madison Roussel thanked Brandon Garner
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catspa_zone9sunset14
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Agree with 'Mrs. B.R. Cant'. Prickles, leaves, blooms, everything.
rosecanadian
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Beautiful!! Oh my!!
Madison Roussel thanked rosecanadian
Melissa Northern Italy zone 8
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My 'Mrs. B. R. Cant' is currently trying to collapse the rickety trellis onto which she's trained, while climbing into the volunteer flowering ash that has cracked open the terrace wall. Why did I not recognize her in these photos? Though the fourth-from-last photo I can see is the rose I know.

I've always thought this variety, though classed as a Tea, had rather a Bourbon air to her. An extremely tough rose, and in the right conditions will make a substantial climber. The scent to my nose is fruity.
Madison Roussel
Original Author
last year
Brandon Garner, I had to go back to include some February bloom photos when I made this post because they didn’t even look like the same rose compared to the first pictures that were taken this week!
Madison Roussel
Original Author
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Thanks so much for the help, everyone! Seems like a pretty unanimous answer for the name of this beauty. I can check another unknown rose off my list! Now onto the next one, hehe.

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