'Tiffany' would be one of my top pics for a cut flower type. It may not be as lushly full as most of the roses discussed here, but its one of the finest HT's ever bred, IMO.

Tiffany, so pretty!

@dianela7analabama which rose has the beautiful greenish tinge to the outer petals? I love that!

I think that one with the green tinge is Moonstone.... sigh...my wish list is getting too big for my yard. It's just lovely, isn't it?

My guess is Mme Anisette is the green tinged flower in Dianela’s bouquet. I’ve grown both, and in my garden only Mme A gets the green tinge. (But I actually prefer Moonstone, better repeat, bigger perfect bloom, one bloom per long stem, won’t try to swallow your house).

One rose that makes a great cutting rose -- super fragrant, very pretty, long stem, lasts long in vase: Sheer Bliss. I hope you do replace your rouge royales with more rouge royales! Mine lasts a long time in the vase. As does Koko Loco, Love's Promise.

You have some great suggestions of roses from people in a variety of zones, so I'll just chime in as another zone 5 gardener wanting to have some of these showy roses. Most of the ones mentioned have either survived with some help in my yard or the yards of rose friends. As I mentioned in another thread, I am now firmly convinced that buying a grafted rose helps a relatively less hardy rose survive in our zones, and once they get past the first couple of winters they can go own root and take the climate better.

Among the white roses you mentioned, I'd definitely recommend Bolero as more hardy and vigorous in bloom than Margaret Merrill. I too have killed that one at least twice, though I haven't tried it grafted. If you want a good classic HT white, I've had luck with Easy Spirit grafted that took off running and has nicely formed frequent blooms.

Other ones mentioned that will absolutely need to be grafted and probably need TLC to thrive in zone 5 include Koko Loko, English Perfume and Neptune. With some notable exceptions, I've found the lavender and russet roses to be marginally hardy even with good stock. I haven't had luck yet with Moonstone grafted yet, but I'm not giving up on that one.

Rosaprimula - I have desperately begged at least 3 North American rose vendors to find and start producing the Renaissance series! I had a few from Pickering before they went out of business, and Bonica Renaissance and Clair Renaissance are still around. Bella Renaissance was a showpiece of my garden that was eye popping beauty, but it died in a drought and I've not been able to replace it. Hortico will occasionally offer one and I comb their offerings fervently to see if I can find any. I love the Poulsen roses.

I rarely cut roses so I'm not the best source of recommendations but I can respond to ideas that get posted at least about hardiness. I've killed a LOT of roses but some survive.

Cynthia

Cynthia - I've killed a lot of roses too. I'll have to google the Renaissance series. :)

Moondance is a nice white rose, also. Plus, Van Morrison...

I got Elina from a ARS sale and I have to say in the wet PNW, it is a blooming machine and perfect cuttings roses. (Don't know the hardiness.) Firefighter is amazing and from High Country so probably zone 5, so are Koko Loco, Strike it Rich and Marilyn Monroe their cutting ones .

But wait, you just said in another thread how much you hated Koko Loco.

Well i went a little crazy yet again. Peter Schneider had two Lilianas and a Spirit of Freedom, ARFR had Abe, and my custom prop order of Elisa Boelle, The Black Prince, and Sonia Rykiel all arrived the same week. I think...... I have too many roses.....

Aaron, how big is your garden?? But anyway, I get to have some more vicarious fun admiring your photos next year so yay and congrats on your order!

Aaron, your " I think...... I have too many roses....." says it all.

There are just certain roses that room and time MUST be made for, every garden should have Abraham Darby. You needed that one. Eliza looks like a very special rose, I was not familiar with it.

The way I have reduced my workload and made room is to invite people to see the garden. When they say they wish it was their garden, I give them one of the roses easiest for me to part with, so I get to buy a new one I want more. I'm seriously considering Silas Marner.

Personal review of rose “Silas marner” from @David Austin Roses #gardenerben

The Abes I bought for my mom didn’t make it :( oh well. She wants my Judes, which I’m considering parting with based on how quickly they shatter. But look at this inaugural bloom!

Your mom has good taste in roses Aaron , Jude is a rare beauty.

Now I feel terrible about suggesting Abe Darby, I'm so sorry they bit the dust. I hope you had some kind of replacement guarantee on them. I never meet the growing requirements so can't ask for replacements.

My Abe I got from Heirloom roses was so expensive I refused to let it die, - it came back from the almost dead. Not being particularly hardy may be why they discontinued that strain of rose, unless DA strong armed them to discontinue it.

A tiny band of Carding Mill from Hummingbird Roses struggled hard the first year - it just would not grow. Now it is turning out to be exceptional, although the scent is awful IMO.

I did get Silas Marner ; the baby pink bud color was so nondescript I was really disappointed until the blooms opened. The large, full pearly pink blooms are fairly nice , it may grow on me.

Would you like me to try to grow a baby Abe to send you ? I'm going to try to root some Evelyns.

Backyard Paradises favorite cut roses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSNvJDwl7j0

This post is right up my isle. EVERY rose I grow is for cutting and must last at least 4 days in a vase. Secondly, it must make a decent looking shrub. You can see every bush around my property from the street. When my roses aren't in bloom, I want them to look like a decent shrub.

Now, I enjoy big bouquets of the same variety. So I have multiples of every variety that I grow. When you take fresh roses from your garden to the bank or Dr.'s office, they remember who you are. It's tough for someone to forget about 12 Munstead Wood's in a simple vase. Or 6 or 7 spray stems of Hannah Gordan. Or 13 HT blooms of Louise Estes or Let Freedom Ring. Maybe a dozen or so Ring of Fire.

The thing is, find what works for YOU. Not what works for someone else. Find the roses that grows well in your yard and enjoy them.

Dianela, are those roses with green outer petals Moonstone? So cool!

@Feiy (PNWZ8b/9a)

yes Moonstone is my absolutely favorite hybrid tea. The plant is vigorous for a hybrid tea here also which helps. No fragrance that I can tell but the blooms are gorgeous. The green edge are mostly seen in cooler temps.

Any thoughts on Distant Drums as a cut rose? I am going to Steve Singer’s tomorrow to see what he has left. One of my Tchaikovskys bit it, as did my Rouge Royales and Lilianas. Oh well—more room for new roses!

Hi Aaron - you should look at Grace Rose Farm’s site for ideas since they started out as a rose cut flower business and just recently expanded to add a mail order rose nursery. So all of their roses are meant for the commercial cut flower market and they have info in the descriptions on vase life etc. ( I don’t mean to enable lol buuuuut they are having a buy 2 get 3rd rose bush free sale today)

My Distant Drums do okay in a vase -- not as long as some, but very much longer than most of my DAs -- don't really "shatter" at all. And DD is one of my all-time favs. The bush itself is not always my most lovely, but it blooms often and flowers are just stunning. Good luck!

Also -- Sheer Bliss lasts a long while in the vase and smells heavenly. I'm also really impressed right now with my new-ish St. Elisabeth of Hungary - very pretty, lasts long, fragrant.

Beverly makes great cut flower. It has long stem, many petals, last long with strong sweet fragrance. It has grown into 6 feet, blooms a lot even in this hot summer.

Evelyn is also a good cut flower. But she is still young in my garden and has not bloomed as much.

Fun in the Sun above, another great cut rose. Intense spicy fragrance, not as sweet as Beverly. But beautiful blooms with substantial petals that last long on the plant or indoor

Lady in Red with vibrant red color, ruffling substantial petals in clusters last the longest in vase. Only pity she does not have any fragrance

I'd want to have roses of which I love the shape and color, such as Evelyn, Plum Perfect, Souvenir de la Malmaison, Potter and Moore, Bishop's Castle, Mlle. Franziska Kruger, Wild Edric, Quicksilver and Burgundy Iceberg. If they last three to four days I'd be content, and they don't all have to have long stems as small bouquets can be very charming.

Sorry, I don't have the names of these roses,

I like to have some red and white cut flowers around Christmas time. Is Firefighter a great cut flower for red. i have a bunch of whites but no red.

Glad to read Beverly is a great cut flower.

@SoCalGardenNut: I have a Firefighter but he is planted at a bad spot overtaken by surrounding perennials. He hasn’t bloomed much. The flowers are very sweetly fragrant on long stems. They last 3-4 days, while Lady in Red easily last a week in vase.

Thanks @forever_a_newbie_VA8, i just checked it’s a climber and I have too many climbers already.

Alek and I just went to Steve Singer’s today and got Moonstone—such a beautiful rose! Thank you all for the recommendation. We also bought one of his own creations named for his daughter as well as an older HT called Confidence. I am pulling the trigger on Distant Drums as well. $50 including shipping but it’s an own root gallon from Burling so it’s worth it.

I would have roses that I love for their shape and color and not so much for vase life, as I wouldn't mind changing bouquets every fourth day, and many roses will last that long inside, especially if they're cut early in the morning or in the evening. I'd want to have Evelyn, Plum Perfect, Souvenir de la Malmaison, Mlle. Franziska Kruger and a few more oldies.

Here is “Kristen Singer,” which has a lovely raspberry scent. Definitely looks like she will make for good cut flowers :)

Firefighter makes a terrific cut flower with its great long stems and lasts ages and ages in a vase. So does its fragrance.

Both Neil Diamond and Rock N Roll do great for the same reasons.

Surprisingly, Quicksilver lasts for ages in a vase and it's pretty easy to cut them for a bouquet even though this one is a climber (a short climber). The color does not fade at all.

Aaron - your Kristen Singer blooms are exquisite!! Such beauty!!

Kristin Singer looks terrific! Is she the spouse? The spouse usually gets the best rose.

Moonstone is a great choice too, very long lasting and as beautiful as a rose can be. In spring the whole plant looks like a giant bouquet

My goodness, Moonstone looks really good.

Wow both Kristin Singer snd Moonstone are fabulous

Thanks Ben—you definitely helped me confirm that that was the right choice! It’s named for his daughter, and I didn’t ask about anything named for his wife. I could ask if he has anything named for his wife, and I could also imagine that being a funny setup for a joke :p

Aaron, if you're looking to order from Palatine, I recommend Roberto Alagna. Healthy, fragrant, long lasting, long stems.

Here it is, the largest rose here with Boscobel and Eustacia Vye.

On the left next to the large dahlia.

Here it is in a bold colors arrangement with Crazy Fashion and Rogue Royal, both of which are also good lasting, long stemmed and very fragrant and healthy in my garden.

All three are HTs, tall, narrow shrubs and all produce a lot of blooms.

Librarian, what lovely bouquets; I really appreciate how you've put together these beautiful different shades.

Deborah, I'm so glad you mentioned St. Elizabeth of Hungary. I'm considering that rose and it's very helpful to know what others think here. This seems to be a very worthy and beautiful rose that's seldom mentioned.

A few roses I cut—Evelyn, PCdM, Le Petit Prince, Earth Angel, and Quietness with an errant gladiolus that somehow survived my 5b winters.

@Aaron Rosarian Zone 5b Anything you'd say to someone (me) considering Earth Angel? I'm intrigued by the scent description and flower shape but I wonder how it does with winters, balling, height, etc.

It definitely balls, and doesn’t repeat as often as I would like. I love the scent and it’s winter hardy. It does get octopus canes, I cut it back to a third of its height today because I was tired of it whittling me when I’d do yard work. It has some mean thorns, but beautiful roses.

That's a lovely arrangement, Aaron.

I wonder if Earth Angel would do really well for you, Magpie... Isn't your climate dry? It might not ball in an arid climate. I've decided to stay content with Bolero since EA would most certainly ball for me here.

I'm glad I scrolled back up again as Robert z8 mentioned that Quicksilver lasts a long time in the vase. I love purple and lavender roses and have ordered Quicksilver for the end of September and can't wait to have it bloom.

Magpie,

I can’t help with hardiness or balling, but my issue with Earth Angel is the rather slow and parsimonious repeat. But in spring, (and only in spring!), she will enchant you with a FarmLuxe experience, even without the benefit of woodland animals or Lululemon.

Aaron

The arrangement looks terrific, and I’d keep tabs on that amazing zone 5 Glad!

Ben, your EA is gorgeous. I'll just keep enjoying yours because I know balling would be an issue in my climate.

Bolero, in comparison. My repeats well even when I don't dead head.

I have two. One in a half wine barrel on my West facing driveway and another in a East facing garden bed.

Librarian

I think Bolero is a far better rose than Earth Angel, the individual blooms a gorgeous , delicously fragrant, the plant well behaved, the bloom repeat is extra generous and super fast. I only keep Earth Angel around because the bloom form is distinctly different from Bolero, and both are very beautiful blush/white varieties.

Bolero

I've always admired Bolero, but after seeing seeing these gorgeous photos that is the only other white rose I would choose. I have Darlow's Enigma, which couldn't be more different, but Bolero truly seems to be in a class of its own, not only for its beauty but for all of its other qualities.

Yes, Bolero isn't quite as amazingly cupped as EA. I think if I were in an arid climate I'd grow EA, too.

Librarian, yes it is very dry here. I also thought roses would never ball here but last year I lost a bunch of Mme. Ernest Calvat's spring blooms to balling, and it's not exactly a generous rose as it is so I was pretty bummed. My garden only has overhead watering, I guess MEC must have been super susceptible to it because even with always getting wet from overhead, my roses have never had a balling issue before.