Best Way to Enclose Existing Raised Beds?
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Comments (2)thank you! I will check out the other forums you mentioned. I did get some great advice on plant choices from someone in the midwest regional forum. I don't know how to insert a picture directly into this post, but I'll try the URL link below. Maybe that will help with any suggestions on where the raised bed should begin and end, since right now it abuts the sidewalk. I'm stumped about what to do on either side of the front porch step, since at some point we'll be adding a railing and replacing the concrete. The bed is against the house, runs the whole length of the house and to the porch, with the sidewalk breaking it. I'm actually not sure how to handle the part where it meets the sidewalk, I guess I will have to push it back, since I'm not sure I'd want the bricks right up to the walk. I have to say I did search a lot last year for info on this type of raised bed with the drainage issue in mind - my paranoia about directing water down around the foundation and having mold problems - we already get a musty smell in the basement in warmer weather, despite the dehumidifier I run 24/7. I was not able to find anything addressing that issue - we have a brick house with a flagstone facade on the front all the way to the ground, and I was unsure about banking dirt up higher against the house just because of the moisture/drainage concern. Possibly my concerns are unfounded. My other lingering question is - aside from the maple, which will probably get moved (cute, but way too small it's to the right of the porch), what about the other plants, like the grasses and perennials, in terms of whether they have to be removed for this project, or can I just add more soil around them, considering there has been some erosion and heaving, anyway? Here is a link that might be useful:...See MoreBest way to lay out raised beds in my yard?
Comments (8)Well, if you have serious drainage concerns and/or rock hard soil, you may have to raise them higher than 8 or 10 inches. In that case, hard sides are almost a necessity. However, you mention that the soil expands to twice the volume using just compost. If that is the case, and if that volume remains after a good dosage of rain/irrigation, then you may be able to work the soil you have. It just may take a good deal of work and input. One approach is to ammend a good deal of organic matter into the soil and let that work out your tilth problems. However, this can present you with a number of problems associated with decreased nutrient values due to higher levels of organic matter, it does not work that quickly, and it requires a good deal of OM every year just to keep the tilth viable. Another possibility is to import your soil. Get a good source of topsoil, compost and sand. Till your existing soil to a fairly modest depth (the top 3 or 4 inches) and then dump the imported soil right on top. Hill up to 6-8 inches, and that should provide you with enough viable tilth to grow just about anything (except maybe 10" long, perfectly straight carrots). As for the "raised rows", these are simply an amalgam between wide raised beds (usually 4 feet wide) and flat rows (usually 0.5-1 foot wide). You simply create a row between 1.5 - 2 feet wide, raised 4-6 inches. Broccoli, cabbage, beans, peas, kale, potatoes, strawberries, just to name the common ones, are best grown in rows for sheer efficiency sake. The reason is that in order to give each on the leg-room to grow, it would be grossly inefficient to plant them in a four foot wide bed. So instead of occupying 7 feet (1.5' path, 4' bed, 1.5' path), you are only occupying 5 feet (1.5' path, 2' row, 1.5' path)....See Moreraised beds - ok to put soil on top of existing grass in back yar
Comments (3)May I suggest that you start a garden journal? Can't be beat for getting a handle on YOUR soil in YOUR yard and in YOUR micro-climate. BTW -- Congrats on your new home and garden. The following link is to a really useful publication. It provides more info than you'll ever need about root development of various veg's. Best of all, it has pictures and charts. Re: your planter depth of 6" being enough ... most plants will adapt to whatever conditions they face. Water, soil, sunlight, etc. ... most of us can't fill the optimum needs of our plants for these ... but somehow or other manage to get tomatoes, potatoes, lettuce, etc. :) Here is a link that might be useful: Root Development of Vegetable Crops...See MoreSeek advice - Whats the best raised bed layout for my Backyard
Comments (11)Ok, I'm not sure I am reading your diagrams correctly so bear with me if I'm way off base. But it appears to me you are wasting a lot of space with so many paths, and overly narrow paths at that, just to have so many different beds. So my first question would be why so many beds? More beds is not necessarily more productive or more useful than fewer but bigger beds would be. Is the E-W directional placement of the beds what is limiting you? If so, then that isn't any sort of absolute "law". Lots of gardeners use N-S beds quite successfully and they can be easy to compensate for the direction by arranging plantings and crop rotation. And it would appear that in your case using a N-S orientation would allow for a much more effective use of space. 3' or 4' wide beds that could be 12, 14, or even 18 feet long. For example using Version 7 diagram, one 3x14 foot long bed could abutt up to the patio edge on one side and you'd have a 3' path between it and the green tree band on the east. Follow m? 1' wide paths are basically useless for any practical purposes and 2' paths aren't much better. You'll live to regret those narrow spaces. So on the south side, if you feel you MUST run E-w then combine some of those many tiny beds into fewer larger ones OR make 2 N-S beds that are 4'x-24' long with 3 foot wide paths all around. Much less wasted space, more growing space, essentially the same amount of fill required, and I would argue more attractive than having a bunch of tiny little beds crammed together. Make sense? Dave...See Moreaziline
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