The discussion reminds me again how personal these choices are. I remember a wonderful phrase from a book (by Booth Tarkington, I think) which went something like this: a mild unpleasantness for one young man may seem the sheer brink of hell to another. That's applicable here as you can see from the posts above. For some of us, a self-cleaning oven is on the list of stove "must-haves." A stove won't even be considered without it. For others, like me, it was on my list of "wanna-haves" rather than "must-haves." (IOW, I miss having a self-cleaning oven but think I can live without it). Others, such as Nunya, are completely indifferent to self-cleaning; seemingly, he wouldn't use it if he had it. I say all of this because opinions here at GW can sometimes sound like dogma -- because I think X, you should, too, and your contrary thoughts are mere subjective preferences. It has to be said that subjective preferences are important. They are none-the-less valuable for being subjective. Your own preference absolutely must be part of the process of choosing a stove. Just because I find manual oven cleaning is "not too bad" does not mean you should find it that way, too. So, hopefully, the range of opinions is taken as helping you sort out our preferences rather than as telling you what to so. There is only way to get better informed than this exchange of opinions and that is by actually cleaning an oven in a stove you are considering. But, even if you live someplace where dealer showrooms have operating stoves you can test out, do you think they'll be demonstrating that aspect anytime soon? ;>) When I bought my NXR, I really had no idea how easy or how onerous "myself-cleaning" would be. That's one of the reasons I bought it from Costco. If "myself-cleaning" turned out to a royal PITA, I could simply return the stove for a full refund and get the self-cleaning induction range that I otherwise would have purchased. So, when you go shopping, it may be helpful to be up-front with the vendors about your uncertainty on this issue and to have a back-up candidate.

Yesterday DH went to the automotive store and got two belts and installed them. This is a mistake. Classic two-belt Maytag toploaders MUST use ONLY manufacturer-sourced, Maytag-original belts. Generic or automotive belts should not be substituted. Reason is that the motor-to-transmission belt has a special cloth coating and functions as the machine's spin clutch, is intended to slip on the pulleys while the drum gets up to speed. A non-coated belt will grab instantly instead of slipping, which puts too much bind on the motor and causes high amperage draw, overheating and potential shut-off of the motor.

You can put the words "Provenza Sweet Talker" in the search bar up above, and find threads about it with photos.

Any installed Provenza Moda Living LVP Sweet Talker over raised wood foundation? I hear complaints of crackling sounds when walked on for Road Trip and Finally Mine colors.