Floriferous, compact rose for the hot, dry climate of Phoenix, AZ?
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Comments (47)Carrie, that was my old post, 11 years ago. I used to have the name Jaspermplants but had to change it at some point, don't remember why. In the time since that post I have gotten busy with some other stuff and don't have as many roses as I used to. At that time (I think Vintage was still around), I was experimenting a lot and had a lot of successes and failures. Also, it has gotten hotter here since then and we have had ongoing drought so some roses haven't done as well as they used to, especially in the past 2-3 years. It is very worrisome. Looking back at that post, I still have Mme Bravy which is probably fairly hard to find now; I probably got it (and many others) at Vintage, which was like heaven because they had so many varieties of roses. The others that still do well for me are Duchess de Brabant and Mme Joseph Swartz, Maman Cochet and the climbers, Souv de la Malmaison (which is full of blooms now) and a couple of her sports which I also have. I don't think you could go wrong with having Souv de la Malmaison here; it is truly wonderful. Romaggi Plot Boubon is great but I had to take the one I had out and I can't remember why. I've had a new one for about 2 years but it has been slow to develop. Mrs BR Cant also had to come out and I have a new one (a couple years old) but it has not done as well. She gets huge though. But she bloomed constantly. Also, I don't worry about what does or doesn't bloom in the summer; it is survival time for roses here then. But, they bloom most of the rest of the year here. So, conversations about what should bloom in our awful summer heat are not applicable to my rose-growing. I also have some moderns I like, I think I mentioned in another thread: Firefighter. Fragrant Cloud, St Patrick, Marmelade Skies. I don't have a lot of them, but I enjoy brighter colors too, at times. There are many more that do well here; besides the heat, the climate is pretty good for roses here, I think. I just experiment and try try again. Good luck...See MoreRoses for a healing garden, rose selection please help
Comments (11)God bless you and your mother, the most fragrant roses I've smelled include: Baronne Prevost' a pink rose. Papa Meilland a red rose, that has a chalice shaped bloom. Mr. Lincoln, another red rose Oklahoma a red-black rose by the way, be sure and plant deep red roses in partial shade so they don't burn and crisp. "Pope John the second" rose is very fragrant, of mixed floral. "Lemon Spice' and Lemon Zest' are very fragrant yellow roses. nearly everybody who sees my rose garden, enjoy the sight of Double Delight' and are even more impressed when they smell it. creamy white centers edged with pink or red depending on the climate. Ebb Tide' for a fragrant purple rose. For historical interest 'The Apothecary Rose' which was used for centuries in Europe to treat both blood and womens' complaints, with its' petals being used for potpourri. I think hortico.com still sells it, under Gallica. Pax and Moonlight for white roses that have a Musk Rose scent, both are very floriferous. hortico.com ships bareroot roses in winter and they sell Moonlight' . helpmefind.com/ under "Plant" and "Search" shows all the above roses. kind thoughts, love, and best wishes for healing, Luxrosa P.S, a scented rose garden with lavender and rosemary, and lemon verbena around it, can uplift the spirits....See MoreCan I grow Black Magic Roses in dry AZ?
Comments (1)I've only been to AZ one time in my whole life, about ten years ago when my FIL had a heart attack. He was in a VA hospital, near Phoenix I think, and the building was built around a central courtyard. Inside the courtyard was a beautiful rose garden. These were some of the biggest, healthiest rose bushes I ever saw. None of them had any kind of label, so not sure what type they were. But I can tell you they were on a drip system, they were not mulched (surprisingly), they were deadheaded regularly. It was late July, so it was very hot out there, but almost every plant was in bloom. These roses were planted about 10' apart, and had no companion plantings. The soil around the base of each plant appeared to be somewhat compacted, but it was sandy soil. And the soil sloped like a funnel towards the base of each plant, which forced water towards the main stem. I surmised that these roses were being grown organically, because of the proximity to so many sick people, and also because of the many bees, butterflies and other insects buzzing around the blooms. I tried to find out who did the gardening there, but it was a weekend and nobody seemed to know. I would have loved to have talked to him about the garden, but I never did. And yes, my FIL recovered, hasn't been back in that facility, and is feisty as ever. Cheryl...See MoreWhich Austin roses are real successes in a hot mediterranean climate?
Comments (30)So far, Darcey Bussell has been my best DA performer. She’s not a favorite, only because I prefer softer colors. She remains “fairly” compact, relative to most DA’s here. She never seems to mind pruning, no matter when or how often. She blooms all the time and makes a better cut flower than most DA’s. I don’t get any disease on her here, although Embothrium has big problems with something like downey mildew on Darcey Bussell. I don’t think that’s in a dry Mediterranean climate, though. Mine is always healthy and happy. She’s in a rather small bed, so she’s cut back often. She doesn’t receive more water than anything else does, and doesn’t seem to need it. My soil is clay, so it does retain water well and is full of nutrients. Abraham Darby on the other hand, DOES want extra water here. I have never experienced rust(other than on hollyhocks), until recently. I’d been very busy over the past month or so, and must have slacked off on watering, just a little. Nobody minded except for AD. This, combined with the wind and 3-5% humidity produced a spectacular case of rust on Abraham Darby. Even though I’ve never seen rust on my roses before, it’s so bad that there’s no mistaking what it is. I’m not even sure what to do about it. I’m giving him lots of extra water, and thinking of pruning him down to almost the ground. I’m worried about spreading the rust, even while pruning. Last night, I went out late to move the hose with my headlamp on. I removed a spent bloom from AD, and in the light beam I could see tiny dust like particles floating off. I can only assume they were rust particles. I fear that while pruning the rust will blow everywhere. So AD definitely wants extra water. He’s brought me my first case of rust on a rose bush. And oh yes, of course, he grows huge in our kind of climate. Lisa...See Morelibrarian_gardner_8b_pnw
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