Yes fighting8r, and I was so excited about being able to check the pupa "shell" after they butterflies emerged, since I wasn't even going to try and move them to check (I am afraid of disturbing the pupa in any way shape of form, lol) and after my first one eclosed, I checked and couldn't see a line or anything else, lol. So, I was glad to see that there is another way to identify the gender after they eclose, and pretty easy to see the markings too.

Great thread. I taught DD at an early age, however, my young neice and nephew need ALOT of help. I bought them "The Golden Rules of Etiquette at The Plaza", gave it as a little gift at holiday time a few years ago. Great reference book for kids, easy, fun, not at all difficult. Well it seems to me that the book probably found its way to the circular file, as I've seen no improvement, but hey, I did give it a shot. Also, it was not their gift, per se, only a little something extra to go along with the main gift. I thought their DM might read it with/to them? Apparently that has not happened. LOL I am definitely going to go over your little memory device with them next time I see them. Hopefully, using their own hands will be of great assistance. Fingers crossed. Thanks for sharing!

Oh, I SO glad "Karen" finally got out of the house to go shopping! LOL. Thanks for taking me along, I'm sure it was fun!! Actually I'm so mad at Mz FATE today. Dad's in the hospital getting his pacemaker replaced, and I had the afternoon free to shop and enjoy some real "me time" for a few hours. (Jason is there with Dad.) Well wouldn't you know, a Fibro flare hit during last evening and this morning I could barely walk across the house with my legs and back so bad. I can't do a thing! Can we say (SCREAM) frustrating! I'm beginning to think I'm under house arrest between my body and caring for Dad. So if any of you want to take me fantasy shopping, that would be great. LOL. Tell me what I bought with my invisible money. Speaking of which, JB, Santa is sort of invisible himself so I'm sure he understands about your invisible friends and will get you that camera. If he doesn't, we may just have to pass the donation plate around here. (tho it didn't work for me last year, LOL) hugs, Karen

Thanks for posting this missindia2020! Now, for posting links, you can't in your initial post. But, after the preview message box comes up, there is a spot for the link, and another box for a name you give the link. the latter is what you then see in the message. :) Moni PS, I had to add the http:// for the link to work. Here is a link that might be useful: missindia2020's link