Cafe True European vs. Kitchenaid Easy-Heat True Convection Wall Oven
Rachel Ezekiel-Fishbein
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Comments (62)I did that exactly, ellessebee. I have the 240V OTR Advantium mounted above the counter. I also have 15" wall cabinets so it fits and works like a charm. I don't think there are any differences in the cooking features between the wall oven and OTR models. The oven cavity is pretty big, because I can fit a half sheet. There are two considerations you need to keep in mind. 1. The OTR does need to vent, because it performs a cooling function after using the non-MW functions. I have mine blow out the front, above the door. In hindsight, I would have run some duct up and over to the adjacent rangehood. 2. The door needs and extra inch of clearance on the hinge side (left) to open. When the contractor first installed it, the whole unit was flush with the cabinet and looked awesome. He was so proud of himself, as was I. I went to use it later and couldn't open the door. It also blocked the exhaust in the front. He had to come back and reinstall it by tacking 2x4s (actually measured 1.5x3.5) to the back wall and then installing it. Now it all works beautifully, while taking a slight hit in the aesthetics. Another benefit to mounting the OTR model OTC is that the underside is heat and moisture resistant. So my coffee maker has a permanent home under there where I don't have to worry about the steam damaging the undersides of the cabinet. Oh, and the built in light of the OTR serves as task lighting for the area underneath. So I also saved money on lighting there. This post was edited by jscout on Mon, Jan 28, 13 at 13:26...See MoreEuropean ( true) Convection / Do you really need it?
Comments (16)FWIW, I have had a "fan-only" convection range in the past and now have a "true european convection" with a third heating element around the fan and, in my opinion, there is no comparison. Now, 3 sheets of cookies are identical in size, color, and texture. Roast chicken done on convection roast is fabulous and salmon done on convection broil has that lovely crispy exterior while still very moist on the inside....no more pan searing for me. In my opinion, true convection is not a marketing ploy. However, results may vary based on manufacturer...see threads on KitchenAid and LG. I can only compare GE to Bosch(which is what I have now)....See MorePlease help! Convection OTR vs. oven
Comments (7)Hi GargenWebber! I have researched this stuff to death What I have found is that when it comes to the oven, cooking with Gas vs. Electric boils down to a personal preference only. Though is seems pretty consistent that the broiler is better with Gas (I admit that I donÂt understand this based on my limited experience). It is also true that Gas ranges are not "True European Convection" ovens. However, from all the reviews I have read (including many on this forum), it makes little difference. Even many of the Electric Convection ovens are not "true convection"  so if this is really important to you, read the specs. Duel Fuel is very popular but it costs a bit more. I donÂt have an option for duel, so it is Gas for me which is fine (plus I can save a few bucks :-) The GE Café also has a duel fuel model. :-) ItÂs a beauty! If you are limited to 30" for a range, you should take a look. It also has a bottom oven that goes from 140  450 so you can use it as a warming drawer too :-) It is not "true" Convection, but both the Gas and Duel Fuel CaféÂs have "PreciseAir" which reverses the fan  very cool Have you Googled "Convection Microwaves"? IÂve founds lots of good info. Sharp makes some good ones that are not OTR as does GE  and there are probably others. If I had the room and money, I would look seriously at the Advantium 120 Built-in  which is a "True European Convection" oven as well as speed bake and mw. Also, about the ranges with convection, I have heard that there is a protrustion inside the range for the convection feature that gets in the way of baking. Can anyone validate this? No personal experience with this. I doubt it is a problem. It is true that the fan and perhaps the third heating element is back there so take along your largest roasting pan or what ever is important to you fit wise and see if the fit. :-) And... am I asking for too much to have a separate hood, micro/convection unit, AND a duel fuel convection range? Is this convection overkill? Should I eliminate a feature somewhere? IMO  not an overkill at all. That will give you what  2 Convection ovens? And, from all my reading, Convection is a wonderful thing Once you cook with it you will probably never go back (if they even make units without this in the future) :-)...See MoreRange oven vs speed vs steam vs convection microwave?
Comments (19)I love the huge oven cavity that my Bluestar 30" has ... and I honestly have a need for that large cavity once every few years. It's one of those "when you need it, you really need" it things. But that need doesn't happen all that often. In our current remodel, we are getting a Miele CSO and a Miele Speedoven; those are only 24" wide. I expect that, like everybody else in this forum, I'll use them much more frequently than the big oven. If you never cook for really large groups of people, I could definitely see you be OK with smaller ovens. And from what I can tell, it's not as if a 30" wall oven was small. I do have to caution you though that it doesn't look as if the Samsung oven is an actual combination-steam-oven. Instead, it looks to me as if it is a regular oven that has a steam injection feature. That's a lot more limiting. Please read up on the difference before making a decision. Also, while I don't know anything else about this particular model, this forum is generally somewhat negative on Samsung appliances. They don't really have a great reputation for reliability right now. I wouldn't know whether that applies to their ovens, though, or if it is just their refrigerators that everybody seems to hate on....See Morewekick
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