Will deer eat unprotected beans/peas?
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3 years agoJohn D Zn6a PIT Pa
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Comments (5)I planted a fall crop of bush beans a couple of weeks ago here in NH. We can get a light frost around July 18 so I plan to put a row cover over them about that time. It would be great if you had room for 4 bean plants. Sure, you could blanch and freeze beans (google for directions) as they come in but they are best fresh from the garden. Some varieties continue to produce better than others. If the beans look like fish hooks, the plants aren't getting enough fertilzer. If you don't have enough beans for a meal, consider stretching them by adding something else. Cooked and cooled green beans are good with French dressing and sliced onions, for example. You probably have time to plant kale now since it's very hardy and can withstand some cold weather. I don't know if it will winter over for me because last winter the deer ate mine. I don't think I would wait until September. See how many days to maturity are specified on the seed package. Yes, it will take longer to grow this time of year since the days are getting shorter. Yes, most flowers turn into a fruit or vegetable unless that kind of plant has male and female flowers. Zucchini, for example, have both so only the female flowers produce squash. The are larger with a bulbous base which quickly turns into a squash....See MoreCastor bean plants for deer control
Comments (26)Sitting here on Memorial Day, thumbing through the Forums and came across this one , as I have a bit of a deer problem this year, too. I AGREE with JC's comment! Why in the world would you want to cause the death of hungry, innocent animals in such a horrible, painful way just to save a few plants?! Good Grief! Go to the grocery store. It can't be THAT important to grow your own fruit! I've read all the hints on how to repel deer, and the chicken wire placed on the ground as an obstacle course seems to be the cheapest, most effective, most humane way to go. Of course, you WOULD have to keep the grass mowed off of it to keep it exposed, or it would just become padded and easy for the deer to walk over. Perhaps AH was too lazy to mow over the prostrate chicken wire! You know? In the long list of remedies to this problem: sprays, soap, radio left on nearby, electric wires with aluminum plates attached, peeing all around garden area (yuk!), I haven't seen ONE suggestion to use our ancestors' remedy..........a scarecrow, and just think, place a bale of hay, a few gourds and pumpkins around it's post at Halloween, and you have instant decoration! HA. Please don't kill Bambi! After all, we invaded THEIR territory, not the reverse! Jeanie...See MoreBeans, beans...
Comments (24)Carol, I have grown Roma II many times. It is sort of the romano bean equivalent of Better Boy or Celebrity tomato---a good, reliable, heavy producer. I usually grow it every year because it is easy to squeeze a row of bush beans into a little bit of space here or there. I don't get very good yields from most yellow beans, but the exception is a yellow roma called Marvel of Venice, which was one of our heaviest producers as a fall bean in 2009. Seedmama, My peas are up about a foot and climbing the trellis just fine, but the recent temperatures in the mid-80s were really hard on them and starting browning/yellowing their foliage. Now that the temps are slightly cooler, the beans seem to be recovering from the heat wave. I hope it stays a bit cooler for a while so the peas get a chance to produce this year. If you're going to be at the Spring Fling, I can bring you some flat bean seed to try.... Jay, Where in the world are you going to put all those beans? Should the horses be worried? Annieokie, You can start planting beans any time now. I think the Oklahoma Garden Planning Guide specifies April 10th-30th and beyond. You can plant succession crops for several weeks, but bean production will drop off a bit when the really hot weather hits. Last year, I planted fall beans in August and was harvesting beans through November. The only beans I have in the ground are Top Crop bush beans, planted earlier this week in our granddaughter's Peter Rabbit garden (with plants chosen because they're mentioned in the Beatrix Potter Peter Rabbit book, so simple things like beans, peas, lettuce, rosemary, onions, strawberries, potatoes, etc.). Her beans are up and have their 2 seed leaves open and I think she'll have her first true leaves any time now. With the warm days, the beans popped up almost overnight. I'll probably start planting beans next week... Carol, I'm going to try that recipe this year if I can manage to find it again when I am picking beans. I think after last night that I shouldn't have to carry flats in and out any more. I can't believe we went down to 33 degrees here....but that's what happens when you're down low in the valley. My forecast looks good, long-term, and we're 10 days past our average last frost date here, so I believe I am going to go wild planting, beginning today. The tomato plants are getting huge and I need to get them into the ground in the next 3 or 4 days, and then I'll work on the ones for containers next week. After that, I'll repot the remaining ones into larger cups and save them for the Spring Fling, which is getting closer and closer. I know I'll be planting like a maniac for the next week at least, but I'm just thrilled the ground is finally dry enough for planting (more or less...there's still a few really wet spots), it is finally warm enough, and the weather looks perfect, if a bit windy, for the next 4 or 5 days. Carol, you are a fine gardener, even if your plant addiction is a more recent affliction for you than for some of us. I'd put your plant and seed addiction right alongside mine and your gardening ability as well, and you can blame the plant and seed addiction on your proximity to Baker Creek if you want. lol I have been wondering how long it will be before you offer to "help" your son and daughter-in-law put in their/your garden on their new place. I've decided I'm not happy in the spring unless I'm growing a bit of everything and have far more plants than space in which to plant them, and I think you are just like me in that regard. Jay, if they had an edit feature on this forum, those of us who grow "too much" would never stop adding to our lists in the same way we never stop adding to our gardens. Stil, there are times an edit feature would be nice. Dawn...See MoreToo late to plant grean beans? Pea health?
Comments (9)My first round of beans are interplanted with onions and there are a LOT of plants. I'll count them later and let you know how many. If the timing works out as it should (and, uh oh, it might not because we had late freezes here through the beginning of May and I planted beans about a month late for us), I'll harvest beans before I harvest onions. If the onions are done first, I am not sure if I will go ahead and harvest them then, or wait until the beans are done and then harvest the onions. Why interplant beans with onions? Because bunnies always find their way under or through the fence and eat my bean plants. Louise Riotte interplanted beans and onions to keep the rabbits out of the beans and I figured if it worked for her, I'd try it. So far, so good, no losses to the rabbits.....and we have tons and tons and tons of rabbits. How many? Well, they sit in the driveway and in the grass between the driveway and fenceline and watch me work in the garden. I guess they find it entertaining. Or, perhaps, they are looking to see what is "on the menu" if they sneak into the garden when I'm not around. The second round of bush beans, which should go into the garden in about a week (I start the second round when the first round starts blooming.)will run right along the west garden fence line. This particular woven wire fencing has chicken wire attached to the bottom two feet to keep the rabbits from reaching through or crawling through. This double row of beans is on the edge of a bed of cantaloupe, but the cantaloupe (being planted today--late like everything else) are going to be planted inside tomatoe cages and growing vertically. By the time these beans are "done", the cantaloupe will have climbed up the cages, down again and will start spreading horizontally into the beans, which are going to be "done" by then, so it won't matter. So, Round One of the beans (interplanted with onions)should produce at least through the end of June, and perhaps into mid-July. Round Two of the beans should produce at least through the end of July and perhaps into mid-August. Round Three? When the onions and round one of the beans are done, that bed gets a 2" or 3" layer of compost tilled into it and that is where I plant a double row--approximately 24 plants--of fall tomatoes. On either side of that double row will go a single row of bush beans. Round three goes into the ground between late June to mid-July depending on when the onions and round one of the beans are done. Then, there is always a Round Four, but it is pole beans and it goes into the ground in its own location, surrounded by winter squash. I hope to get the winter squash and pole beans into the ground (in their own dedicated area, which has nothing planted in it right now) before next weekend. I plant two or three kinds of pole beans on poles made from bamboo, cedar, or willow--whatever isn't already being used for something else. I try to time the pole beans so I can harvest them in the late August to early September timeframe. Since pole beans mature pretty much all at once, most of them go into the freezer for the winter, but I also will be freezing beans from the other rounds as we go along. I try to time the planting/harvesting of the beans very carefully. Otherwise, they all mature at once and I don't do anything but pick and put up beans for days and days. : ) Round one of the beans/onions is followed by fall tomatoes and round three of the beans in the same bed. Round two of the beans, planted with cantaloupe, aren't really followed with another crop IF the cantaloupes are moving into their space. If, by chance, the cantaloupes are staying on their cages and not spreading out, I'll plant mini-pumpkins in the space vacated by the bush beans, usually Jack-B-Little and Baby Boo. Round three of the beans (plus fall tomatoes) follow round one in the same bed once it is cleared out and has compost added. They keep that bed occupied until the first frost. Then, that bed gets a winter cover crop. Round four are the pole beans climbing high in their own space while winter squash creep and crawl all over the ground around them. Sometimes I have to be careful picking round four or I step on the winter squash vines....and I have to watch the ground for snakes hiding in the winter squash vines. Once round four is done, the winter squash occupies that space until late fall or even early winter. You also can succession plant by repeatedly planting beans in the same place. To do that, I start successive rounds in paper cups and plant them, cup and all (with an "x" slashed into the bottom of the paper cup to let roots grow through), the same day I yank out the previous round. I do add compost and Espoma Vegetable-Tone organic fertilizer to the soil in between rounds. I try to have pretty good sized plants in those paper cups by planting time so they take off quickly when I put them in the ground. Succession planting is part art, part science. Sometimes I run out of space and don't get to plant one of the rounds. This year, repeated late frosts in our low-lying location here by the Red River really, really slowed me down. I kept waiting for "one last frost" before planting anything other than tomatoes (which I had to cover up many, many times to protect from freeze and frosts) so I feel like everything is late. However, crops planted in warmer weather grow faster than those planted in cooler weather, so I am sure it will all work out. Dawn...See Morezeedman Zone 5 Wisconsin
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