Wisteria tree training
Jeff C (Zone 9b, CA)
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Comments (102)I received my box from Deb today. This is what was inside. Thank you very much, Deb. Now I need to get some potted. The flowers the neighbor weed whacked in the highway curb are trying to come back. It looks odd where the blooming Gypsophia ends, though, like the row abruptly stops. I'll be thinking about all of you. Seeds- Orange Cosmos Mammoth Grey Striped Sunflower Sparkler Radish Mimosa Vitex Chaste Tree Unknown colored Cosmos Shasta Daisy "Silver Princess" Pink Oleander Shrub/fragrant (seeds have a poisionous label) Hardcover book- "Scrapbooking with Memory Makers" Tons of ideas, pics. 118 pages package of copper plant markers Roses 1001 Gardening Questions Answered, 131 pages, hardcover Big Crinium bulb! Victoria Principal's book- "30 day plan to look and feel 10 years younger", hardcover. Caladium bulb- "F.M JOYNER" Caladium bulb- "Candidum" More seeds- Lavender '08 munstead Red Kurl Uchiki Kurl Squash Cactus flowered zinnia Lemon Balm Sweet Dumpling Squash 4 O'clocks, yellow Gourd "Straightneck Wrenhouse" Poppy "Peony red" Black diamond heirloom watermelon Zinnia "Cherry & Ivory Swizzle" Scarlet Scarlet Marigold '08 Black eyed Susan vine/Orange Thunbergia Alata "Superstar Orange" Cinnamon Basil Georgia collard greens Marigolds yellow/orange 2 baby cactus 1 Aloe vera pup, rooted 2 cactus pads- outdoor optunia Boston Ivy cutting, very nice!! Thanks again, Deb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...See MoreHow to train Wisteria to tree?
Comments (3)That's an issue I've been curious about. Certainly the stems have the potenial to choke another plant. When you look at wisteria trees or older vines on pergolas, the stems can be tightly wound around each other. Interestingly, the tightly wound stems merge into one to make very attractve gnarly branches and trunks. But that merging which clearly doesn't result in choking, would only happen with the wisteria itself I'm sure. But, in its native habitats, wisteria grows scrambling over rocks and up trees and shrubs. And it apparently does it without killing the plants it uses for supports. There's a large 'wild' garden in the Niagara area that has a large collection of wisterias that it lets run wild into the trees. According to the owner, the wisterias do not kill the trees and I didn't see many/any dead trees with wisteria on them during several visits there over the years. Still, I suspect younger trees with smaller girths could easily be 'strangled' by a stem tightly winding around it - or simply by being overwhelmed by the weight/volume of the vine. I wouldn't risk making a mess of the oak by training the wisteria into it. I'd prune the wisteria to make it a stand-alone tree itself (although it sounds like the wisteria is trying to reach for the light so it's not happy there.) If you want to fill in under the oak for some reason, make a woodland garden under it. But oaks are majestic trees on their own and really don't need much in the way of companions. Add a nice bench and make a seating area under it to enjoy the shade!...See MoreHow to train WISTERIA to go up a column
Comments (2)They would indeed twine around the columns - but that is probably not desirable as you'd never be able to get them off again if you ever need to (to paint or repair the columns or the house for example). You'd be far better off to keep them away from the house and train them as small trees on sturdy posts where you can have easy access to control their size and shape by pruning. Both our Chinese and Japanese wisterias are grown as 'trees' and I'd never grow a wisteria any other way - it's far easier to prune and control them without having to climb up on a tall structure of some sort. Are your wisterias American ones or an Asian ones? Some of the American ones have a somewhat unpleasant scent to the flowers which might not make a good choice for a front entrance....See MoreTraining American wisteria with Mandevila on tree
Comments (2)Wisteria is hardy where you are. Mandevilla, sadly, is not and will die come Winter. Amethyst Falls is a named cultivar, more compact than the straight species. However, If you sow its seeds they will grow but they will not produce Amethyst Falls plants. So if your nursery claims to have grown AF from seed they are taking you for a ride. I would go back and ask them how it was propagated. Wisterias grown from seed can take decades to flower and they can grow enormous smothering everything around them....See Morebtydrvn
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