My thread on Luculia gratissima rosea 'Pink Fragrant Cloud'
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Comments (150)Today I sowed... Hosta (sum & substance) Money Plant Staghorn Sumac Hibiscus (hardy) Clematis (Polish Pride) Chinese Lantern Datura Lilac Laflear Rose Campion Armerid Bees Malva Pink Lambs ear Coreopsis White Trumpit Vine # types of pitcher Plant Mexican fan Palm- both we and inside thought I would experiment Dogwood red osier White Birch Buchthorn glossy Elderberry Evergreen E. Burning Bush Lilacs Canna Red Canna Marabout Tennessee Coneflower Purple Coneflower Coneflower Ruby Star False Solomons Seal That it for today... Bonnie...See MoreAnother for JohnReb - Yellow/Orange/Salmon/Pink MONSTER
Comments (8)Yeah, I don't have Folklore ...yet. ;-) Let's get the top-level eliminations done first of all. Your photos and description show me your mystery-rose is definitely *not* Seashell Today Coral Sea Montezuma. Folklore's fragrance is rated as Intense ...and its leaves are rated as Glossy. I'm also leaning away from your orange mystery-rose being Arizona ...whose petals tend to quill noticeably more than yours appear to. But as we've all seen, Arizona blooms look so different in so many locations, I can't quite count it out entirely. Your photos and your description of the blooms' form and color, and the bush's growth-habit (very tall & "narrow"), immediately reminded me of a rose in my yard that I forgot to include on my "Long-Lasting Blooms" list. It is Sundowner - which is a grandiflora, thus matching your rose's bloom-habit. Take a look at the photos at HelpMeFind. Also "matching" is the fact that my two Sundowner bushes were purchased as bodybags at WalMart, like yours. But mine were correctly labeled ...I think. ;-) As I said, your desription of your rose's blooms and their "behavior" matches my Sundowner perfectly. But... mine has at least medium-strength fragrance. Also, its older leaves have leathery texture ...but not what I'd call "very" leathery. To my eyes, they are medium-green, and at least somewhat semi-glossy. You said your rose has "50+ petals." I've gotta ask, is that an estimation, or the result of doing an average-petals-per-bloom count with several blooms? Also, was that a Spring Flush count, or from a later flush? The reason I'm asking is, Sundowner is rated at only 35 petals. Note: I did a 3-bloom petal-count a few minutes ago. My most-mature Sundowner bush produces blooms which average about 40 petals. (Your rosebush appears to be *quite* mature, and thus might be producing higher petal-numbers.) When I was outside counting, I took a "sideview" photo of a just-opening bloom, to show the orange petals with yelow base ...and also made a "whole bush" shot. I'll post them for you over in the Rose Gallery ...or, email them to you. Whatever method you prefer. Sundowner might be incorrect. The fragrance-level and leaf-leatheriness factors don't seem to match. But Sundowner sure does match your grandiflora mystery-rose's described bloom-color, "ageing-appearance," and bloom-form. Regards, JohnReb...See MoreLooking for Pink Pagoda Mountain Ash
Comments (37)Garden centers here have sold all kinds of plants I never see anywhere from my car, on foot or in local collections. And nothing gets on the general market in a big way that isn't picked up by at least one wholesale company, bulked up sufficiently and sent to numbers of garden centers and other retailers. Plus even among those that are given this level of prevalence at least for a few years only a percentage become standard items, that are seen repeatedly for long periods of time. For one thing a plant has to appeal to popular taste, and stay in favor in order to remain on the everyday market. If it doesn't sell well, and quickly, it soon gets dropped by walk-in retailers. For instance when I worked as a buyer for a garden center I ordered the Coral Fire mountain ash from Monrovia. It stiffed, because just about everybody that came in looking for mountain ash wanted instead the same orange-berried Sorbus aucuparia (a weed in my region) that they were seeing around already. The plants we had were even in fruit, yet, nope it had to the familiar orange one. With the result that the actually much more special Coral Fire ended up being discounted, and certainly was not going to be replaced - once it was finally gotten rid of. Even retailers selling mail order or on the web, seeming to be oriented more to plant nuts still need the stuff to sell in a timely manner. Otherwise it (sometimes) gets given away, more often marked down or (probably most often) thrown out. It is one of the few Sorbus that does well in the humid summers of Southeastern Pennsylvania. says to me a built-in resistance to Sorbus is likely to be present in the regional market - both among producers and consumers - which could have prevented the Longwood introduction from becoming a lasting commercial success there. In other words I don't think apparent or perceived scarcity as a product automatically demonstrates lack of garden suitability....See MoreSecret Santa 12th Annual WISH LIST thread only !
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