If black spot is an issue and you prefer the the sprawling habit then you won’t have a hard time choosing between these two.

Boscobel :is beautiful tidy and compact without pruning and it gets blackspot if not sprayed consistently.

Lady of Shalott: grows generously and it can definitely be a sprawler if not pruned well. She is also very blackspot resistant.

They are both beautiful and I would try both if that is feasible for you.

My Boscobel is not compact, but quite large--it has a nice round shape, and is definitely not a sprawler. Bosco is one of my favorite Austins and is a good bloomer, but I have no experience with blackspot in the desert, so I defer to Dianela on that issue. I worry that partial shade/barely full sun in zone 6 might not give your rose enough strong sun for good blooming. Diane/nanadoll zone 7

Diane I LOVE your Boscobel. I keep waiting for mine to go through a growth spurt here, but it refuses to do it. I think defoliating due to blackspot may be slowing it down. I will try and be better this year with the spray.

aufbrezeln-eschaton: Either rose would probably make you very happy. David Austin‘s website recommends LOS as one of the easiest roses to grow and she really is so you can’t go wrong.

Dianela, your roses are wonderful, and you are an excellent rose mom. I do think that blackspot has a negative effect on growth at times, depending how badly a rose gets infected. The rose's energy goes into replacing a whole new set of leaves in bad cases, and this is energy that could otherwise be used for growth. Just my theory. Diane

Thank you Diane. I do think you are correct, it can’t be easy to have to constantly replace so much growth.

My 2 young Boscobel are very upright and narrow. both growing In part sun and too new to advise on bloom frequency.

They were more vigorous than Abraham Darby, Heritage, and Tamora in the same bed.

I planted a Lady of Shalott in a somewhat shady area and she made it through the winter and appears very hearty this spring.

Both are quite different - size being the greatest difference. Lady of Shalott can get quite large while Boscobel is more compact. Boscobel’s blooms are more substantial and meaningful individually and has a stronger fragrance but Lady of Shalott adds so much to the garden. The blooms just glow. As has already been mentioned, Lady of Shalott is more disease resistant. I have Lady of Shalott growing in part shade and grows quite well there.

I just started planting roses. I drove to Tyler Texas and ended up getting 9 David Austin potted roses last month. Boscobel has been blooming as as soon as we got it in the ground. Such peony globe true pink blooms. It teneds to get floppy since the bloom are heavy. But, the scent is so old rose smelling to me. I also like that it changes color as it fades or bud. I have a Carding Mill next to it (which also does well.. and the bloom is more upright. Lady Shallot just began to bloom for me. So, far I love Boscobel for it's peony and abudant blooms.. and fragrant. I cannot say much for disease resistant since no proble with Boscobel yet.

I have both. LOS much larger and shade tolerant.LoS blooms earlier too.

LOS in background left of gate. Boscobel buds in foreground.

I have both, and highly recommend LOS. Bosobel is small, and doesnt bloom as much for me. Color is more vibrant. LOS is larger and blooms all the time. She does get BS, but not a crazy amount.

I also found Boscobel to be weak, small, and a stingey bloomer. The flowers are pretty and unusual in color, but the perfume was not that stong for me either, certainly not as strong as many, many others (but that is subjective) including some older DA's like LEH. The flowers are beautiful but there were not enough of them. It was a continual victim pests of all sorts, depsite my best efforts, which was not the case for its neighbor Roald Dahl, a very healthy plant comparatively speaking that seemed to be resistant to everything and anything. My Boscobel's roses were also suspectible to rot/balling. And its leaves never seemed to stay on it, and apparently I am not alone. See also, the review and comments here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8-oAoOiHwk. LOS had better growth and was healthier, and had more blooms, very pretty, even if it is not as gorgeous or fragrant as LEH, for example (in my opinion). It was very low maintenance--no pests or disease or anything wrong--but it does tend toward long, thin, branches that don't grow up, but out.

Boscobel 2022, the hottest summer here on record, and that's that's HOT. Diane

To me, the color in that photo makes it look more like Mary Rose --interesting how it can vary from climate to climate. Mine was more salmon-colored. Must be another one that likes the heat and not the European damp! Here was mine with a flower...

I have grown Boscobel since the year it first was sold. It does have a slight salmon color. It is NOT Mary Rose. Diane

My Boscobel too has more coral than I wanted.

I am hoping mine has more coral tones since I paired it with Barock, Felicia and Princess Alex

I like that bit of coral. Bosco is a favorite of mine. It's not an insipid pink that looks whitish from a distance. Now, PAoK had quite a bit of coral--especially in summer, which it just could not take here. Diane

PAoK

Boscobel definitely gets very Coral tones here, especially in warmer weather which is most of the year here. In winter it can be very warm pink with no coral tones at all.

I fell in love with it as did the tree frogs which adore to hide in the voluptuous folds of its blossoms. I'm not obsessed with red oranges or corals but Boscobel stole my heart. It is a good bloomer and disease resistant.

Boscobel with tiny frog lower left

very coral coloring in mid summer

I hope no offense was taken. I am a fan (so far) of Mary Rose actually. I ordered it recently because of its reputation for robustness and reliability as I was so disappointed with some of my more dashing acquisitions these last couple of years. So far that seems to be holding true. The blooms can last a week on the rose in cool weather and it seems to have survived a freak cold snap unscathed. The fragrance is like that of expensive beauty products but better and very enticing to sniff. However it is not as vivid in color as LOS or Boscobel. I am thinking to add some pizazz to my garden by trying some of Dominique Massad's creations for the first time. I have rarely seen so many gorgeously rich and vivid colors linked to roses with apparently strong fragrance as well so we'll see now if they are as tough and reliable as Mary or LOS...