Does anyone know where I can find the David Austin rose "The Prince?"
Raoul. Texas, zone 8
5 years ago
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Anyone using David Austin's rose food?
Comments (6)Funny that you should post this question. This year I decided to stick to only organic fertilizers. I own 102 roses (aiming for 150) and am trying to find a cost effective, efficient way( together with manure for soil improvement) to fertilize just twice a year I used: DAVID AUSTEN ROSE FOOD ROSE TONE PLANT TONE and JOBE'S ORGANIC ROSE FOOD FOR KNOCKOUTS I also used FISH FERTILIZER AND SEAWEED EXTRACT on my roses that were newly planted in the fall. The conclusion of my experiment is that all of the roses that were fertilized period... all had green leaves and excellent blooms. I did not notice a difference in performance. The only thing I will say is that the organics appear to help better with leafing out than the chemical pearlized fertilizers. This year all of my roses have had healthy, bushy growth than in previous years. I might add that we have also had more rainfall this year than in the past three years or so. I used all of the fertilizers mentioned randomly on my Chinas, Teas, Moderns, Hybrid Perpetuals, noisettes, Austins and the few hybrid teas I own. By this I mean I did not use Austin fertilizer on the Austins and Knockout fertilizer on the knockouts. I sum up by saying in my short, unscientific experiment I think the organics produce a similar effect irregardless of brand. As a side note the Austin fertilizer was much pricier than the others....See MoreHas anyone grown David Austin roses in containers in a cold climate?
Comments (32)There isn't a lot you can do about the new growth. It happens. By the time the buds have grown out that far inside, the growth won't harden off. 45F is too warm, as you have found out. Unlike hardy roses, most roses you are going to want to keep garaged aren't very smart when it comes to temperatures. They respond much better to a lack of water, but that has its own issues in a container. In the northeast, where I live, we tend to have wet falls, and getting zone 6 roses to go dormant can be a challenge if you can't turn off the water. However, that is a story for another time. The roses have to be essentially hit over the head with cold enough temperatures that they have no choice but to understand winter is real, winter is coming. Almost by definition, these are sub-freezing temperatures. Then to keep them dormant, temperatures should be close to freezing. I assume you have some temperature control over this garage. For the roses, 35F is probably cold enough. I have an attached, unheated, uninsulated garage, and things definitely freeze out there. 28F is not an issue. The bigger issue is when things start warming up in the spring, and the roses have to be brought out on sunny days, and back in for cold snaps....See MoreDavid Austin Roses - can a climbing rose be grown as a shrub
Comments (8)I would presume part of it is merely marketing to generate sales and to pad the ever shrinking catalogue. I agree that the way they used to do it (which was simply stating "may be grown as a climber" makes more sense and is less confusing for the general rose buying public. Hopefully someone else with longer term experience may contribute, and the climate and microclimates in which you and other gardeners reside can make a huge difference, especially with the Austins. Other than the Knockout marketing tribe, I personally believe that there is no other group of roses (or nursery and its practices) that generate as intense differences of opinion as David Austin's "English roses". Several gardeners in places such as California experience them growing huge and rampantly often at the expense of producing good bloom/repeat bloom. Folks in places such as New York seem to appreciate their growth and floriferousness because the harsh winters and lesser sunlight limit their growth potential. Same for various diseases. For me, they do come down with black spot, but virtually everything does here to some degree, and they ARE more disease resistant than any typical gaunt wimpy hybrid teas here. May we inquire to your garden's general location? In letting us know, then you'll know whose opinions and experiences will most closely reflect your possible results. I have heard that Austin roses truly do take a good five years to settle in and perform well, but my one Lady Emma Hamilton on Dr. Huey seems to be dwindling here in the cold north after about seven years, The Ingenious Mr. Fairchild initially seemed to take off, but the winter of 2016-2017 was very hard on my roses and he sort of petered out, but we'll see how he does this year. My Gertrude Jekyll from 2016, and Munstead Wood and Lady of Shalott of 2017 actually are putting on size (slowly after over three years) and my Chianti on Dr. Huey seems to be taking off very well. I suppose patience would be a key word, and I don't always have enough of it! Steven...See MoreMy Thomas Becket (David Austin) rose is dying. Anyone know why?
Comments (56)Exactly bart bart. I used the term rambler when addressing the suggestion that Amadeus might need a support structure to not sprawl over the path. It was suggested to direct the rose growth over to a pergola located on the next path. Seeing as that structure is well over 10 feet away from newly planted Amadeus, the only type of rose that would grow such long canes is a rambler type. Which is why I said Amadeus isn't a rambler, and I am trying to grow it as a shrub of hopefully five-ish feet or so. Again, for me growing roses in pots isn't successful. They don't like it. As to them simply needing lots of plant food to succeed, I would suggest climate would also play into the situation. Here we have temperature fluctuations, going from well below freezing in winter, to extremely hot in summer, and yoyoing back and forth during the growing season. Rose roots in general perfer to be cool. They don't get that in pots. My style of gardening is to mimic nature in that I try to grow plants as naturally as possible. Supplemental watering is necessary during our hot, dry season, especially with the fast draining soil in my garden. However I use no chemicals at all. This does include synthetic plant food. However I will bend the no chemical plant food rule for the roses, occasionally. Certainly no other plant growing in my garden ever gets plant food added to the soil. They all grow well as is shown by the enormous weed pile accumulated this year. I will also state as shown above, most of my roses, and I grow over 100 plants, are doing very well. Therefore when one declines as Thomas Becket has, I want to know why. Hence this thread....See MoreRaoul. Texas, zone 8
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