megkor - this is what I posted on your other post about this recipe: There is just no way to no for sure since as far as we know it has never been tested for pH level or density. Especially without knowing the source of the recipe as that at least might provide a clue. While it has a lot of vinegar it also has a LOT of low acid vegetables in it - many pounds of them. How can anyone know what the pH would be? Salsa is one of the most risky foods since it is eaten straight from the jar with no further cooking. That's who only tested and approved recipes are recommended. Safety with salsa requires knowledge of the acidity level and the density to determine proper processing. Both are unknown in this case. Dave PS: cre8tivman68 - Annie is one of the regulars here and has been for several years. She developed the recipe and had all the USDA testing done on it for safety approval.

Yes, I'm definitely getting passiflora obsessed. I just hope they do well in AZ. Otherwise, I'll have to look into the AZ natives, which aren't quite as nice. Still hunting for purple passion fruit. How big of trellises and pots should I plan on? I need to plant these vines this weekend and will go buy some pots today. I'll eventually put some in the ground along my fence but want to be able to move these around, at least until I know where they like to live as far as sun amounts during our wicked summer heat. Pots will also give me the option of bringing the more tender varieties in the house or at least under the porch roof during light freezes, as well. Anything special I need to do when potting up? They look like such delicate little vines.

Hello again everyone! Wow Eric! I love the pictures of the P. umbilicata x P. tucamenensis. What a great photographer! I wonder whose camera you stole those off of. Mine......since you didn't take any pictures of this one this year ;-P! Hey there PassionLove!! I am so very happy to hear that P. reflexiflora is one of your favs! Now I can't wait! I was out there earlier today saying nice things to him so that he'll start growing for me. I even mentioned you just in case he's home sick. LOL. Sorry I can't help but be corny sometimes! I also love the P. 'Blue Stripper'. That one is a beauty! I even emailed Henk Wouters to see if he was ever going to offer this one in the U.S. I didn't get a response, but that is to be expected......he's probably busy making more great hybrids for the world or just Europe.....lol. It was just registered in 2007 so I'm still hoping that Elizabeth will get a hold of it for us soon since she does carry some of his other hybrids that he registered in 2004 and 2005! If you ever see the P. tucumanensis available on Georgia Vines again, please let me know. Every time I check, they're sold out. I don't think I have ever seen it available there. Must be bad timing on my part ;-D. Hello Mark4321, I am glad to see the pictures of P. edulis 'Nancy Garrison'. You weren't kidding about it fruiting well. I can't wait to get it going to see if we get the same kind of fruit production that you do. The P. edulis 'Fredrick' always drops its flower buds when it gets hot, so hopefully P. edulis 'Nancy Garrison' will not have this same issue. The cuttings look great, but no roots yet. Crystal

Great to hear that! It would have been a shame to lose that one. I understood the 6' part--in which case my question would have been why not save 6' of main vine + 1' of the white-flowered part (or however much). Good to hear you got it all, though. Have you thought about registering it? I've read that commercially produced P. edulis (and Myles points this out in another thread) are usually started from seed. Presumably all sorts of weird things must pop up all the time. Is this a common one? With the essentially total absence of pigment? I know that I've asked this before and I don't know if there's been an answer. Actually I just reread the earlier thread and reminded myself--Myles said that white flowers do pop up occassionally. My question is whether this degree of complete whiteness (lack of pigmentation even in the reproductive parts) is normal. I would think that a blooming plant with your fully white blossoms would be a lot more striking than the 'alba' form I linked to in the other thread. I'm not an expert, but as I mentioned before I do personally think yours is the superior form. Maybe you have already found out, but perhaps someone like Kartuz or Elizabeth at Grassy Knolls can tell you if this degree of whiteness is unusual or if the flower is considered desirable? If so, maybe you could interest them in a cutting (for free) with the stipulation that if they were to decide to sell it they could give you a few plants or something? That way you could preserve it, make it available if it's worth it and maybe even get something for your effort. Obviously, P. edulis is not normally grown (just) for its flowers, but they are nice nonetheless. Just a thought. Personally, I like the flower a lot from your pictures, but I don't know if those "in the know" think it's really a valuable mutation. That really shouldn't matter, but of course it does. I do suspect there's a significant number of people out there who would like a pure white passionflower--and one that fruits--all the better. I would guess there are many who are not that interested in P. caerulea but really like the 'Constance Elliot' cultivar for example. Or if they have the typical form they may want the other. I bought P. edulis 'Frederick' from GK earlier this year. About a month later I bought 'Nancy Garrison'. Now even though I prefer colored flowers, if I were given a chance at that point to buy one just like 'Nancy' except with pure white flowers, it would not have been a tough choice. I would guess that registering it might be the key to all of this. I think that Myles' site has a description of how to do this. Just got it--see the link below. It sounds simple. I assume if they don't think it's a worthwhile new cultivar they'll let you know. Regardless, if you tried to trade/sell cuttings of this plant on this forum I suspect you'd find a lot of takers. As an aside--have you tasted fruit from this plant (even from normal flowers)? How is the quality? Here is a link that might be useful: Registering cultivars and hybrids (Myles' site)