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Need Landscape Design Help - Perma/Polycultures, Eco-Gardening
Comments (31)Happy new year everyone! GGG - excellent advice on sticking with native plants. In fact, that would work well for me. One of the reasons I wanted to order heirloom seeds was that I'm kind of tired with the same old store variety veggies. So seeds would give me a variety of things to grow that one normally doesn't see or eat. But your thought on staying with native plants in a sense does the same thing. It gives me a chance to grow and try things I don't normally get to have. I'll still go with some things that I find interesting, but I would like to stick with natives as much as possible. It just makes sense, really. If you happen across your Jerry Hightower notes, I'd be most grateful. Being able to read up on and study native plants now gives me a chance to understand and learn well before I plant. I will follow up on the other references you gave as well. Liliumskygazer, I understand what you're saying in that the author is a bit judgmental at times. Please note though that I am very new to taking gardening seriously. So for me, nearly the entire book has brand new ideas, or old ideas presented in a new light. For me being a newbie and all, I found it one of the best gardening reads in quite some time. That being said, when I find an author who appears closed minded or single minded on certain topics, it's tough look past that to see the rest. But what I got most from the book, and what I respected most about it was that: - The author emphasized looking at gardening spaces as a whole, living, symbiotic system. - It gives several realistic, real world examples of the systems he was discussing; before and after. Too often, I find this lacking in most educational books. - That each eco system has a *tremendous* amount of variety, created using a very specific strategy. It is these concepts that made me rethink everything I had in mind about gardening, for the better. Good news y'all! I moved into my new home over these last few days, AND...!!! And I bought my first rakes, gloves and a shovel. I'm going to get some soil tests done this week some time, and Duane will be by next Saturday to kick off my gardening adventure. I'm going to take lots of "before" pics and post them on a yet uncreated web site so we can all get a good laugh from the newbie gardener. ;) Once again, thank y'all for the help and advice....See MoreCookalong #47 ------- RICE
Comments (36)For a change, try Nasi Goreng, Indonesian fried rice. I learned to enjoy it for breakfast when I went to the Island of Borneo in 1999. Nasi Goreng Cooked and cubed chicken, shrimp, diced ham or sausage can be added if desired. 6 servings : Active Time: 30 minutes : Total Time: 30 minutes Ingredients 3 large eggs, beaten 4 small shallots, peeled (or diced onion) 3 cloves garlic, peeled 2 tablespoons whole almonds (I like peanuts) 2 small chile peppers, seeded and diced 2 tablespoons peanut or canola oil, divided 2 cups finely chopped or shredded vegetables, such as yellow bell pepper, cabbage and broccoli 2 tablespoons reduced-sodium soy sauce 2 tablespoons kecap manis, (see Ingredient Note) 4 cups cooked and cooled brown rice 2 scallions, thinly sliced 1 medium tomato, sliced 1 small cucumber, sliced Preparation 1.Generously coat a wok or large skillet with cooking spray and heat over medium-high heat. Pour in eggs, reduce heat to medium-low and cook, lifting the edges so uncooked egg flows underneath, until mostly set, 1 to 2 minutes. Slide out of the pan onto a clean cutting board. When cool enough to handle, cut into thin strips. 2.Place shallots, garlic, almonds and chiles in a food processor. Process to a thick paste. Heat 1 tablespoon oil in the wok (or pan) over medium-high heat. Add the paste and cook until fragrant, about 2 minutes. Transfer to a small bowl. 3.Heat the remaining 1 tablespoon oil over medium-high heat. Add vegetables and cook, stirring, until crisp-tender, about 2 minutes. Add the shallot paste, soy sauce, kecap manis and rice and stir until combined and heated through, about 2 minutes more. Transfer the Nasi Goreng to a platter. Top with the strips of egg and scallions. Arrange tomato and cucumber slices around the edges. Ingredient note: Kecap manis is a thick, palm sugar-sweetened soy sauce. It's used as a flavoring, marinade or condiment in Indonesian cooking. Find it in Asian food markets or online at importfood.com. To substitute for kecap manis, whisk 1 part molasses with 1 part reduced-sodium soy sauce. Teresa...See MoreAnyone like planning permaculture gardens
Comments (7)Well, it does seem like a huge space. I guess my advice would be to start with trees you know you want, being they take the longest to mature. You could have various "guilds" and then gradually work to connect them and make pathways. Do you have any equipment, such as a tractor? Without help like that, I would be careful about how much you can manage. Also, how much food will you want to harvest and preserve? The lady who used to mow my lawn retired, so I was in the market for a lawn tractor. I went with a Ryobi, which is electric and I love it. I have no guilt about mowing my lawn because of this, and the green softness is relaxing to my eye. I have seating areas around the property, where I really do enjoy the grass. If you just don't want lawn in areas, you could always plant wildflowers which would act as food food for pollinators / insects and wildlife. I have an acre where I live, and decided last winter to create a permaculture garden in my front yard which borders on a highway. There is a sidewalk, which creates a natural boundary, and the length is about 120'. I made the edge that is not the sidewalk side curve, so at its narrowest, in the center, I would say it's 5' and at its deepest, it's probably 30'. That was plenty for me to start with! I rented a sod cutter and moved the grass out back to compost. I didn't have access to wood chips, so I paid to have 8 cubic yards of mulch brought in and that wasn't enough, but it was all that the delivery dump truck could hold. Within that space, I have 2 persimmons, 3 apples, a cherry, 3 paw paws, a Stewartia (I had planted it a few years ago before I knew of permaculture) an Autumn Brilliance Serviceberry, 4 dwarf varieties of mulberry, 20 Regent serviceberries (5x5') that will grow into a hedge next to the sidewalk, 50 asparagus behind those, 2 goumi, aronia, many currants, gooseberries, jostaberries, a rhubarb, 4 honeyberries, a medlar tree and a lingonberry and 50 strawberries that will be used as the groundcover layer. In the corner by the driveway, I've have a triangle space dedicated to herbs. All of that, and some perennial flowers and I still have some room. My point in telling you all of that is that my 120' bed is tiny next to all you want to do, but it consumed all of my time. I don't want you to be overwhelmed and then get discouraged. Elsewhere on the property, I just planted 4 hazelnuts, a quince tree, 3 more paw paws and 2 elderberries and 2 persimmons, but they were added as extensions to existing beds. I had planted previously a peach and cherry tree, two pears, two kiwi on a pergola, concord grapes on a chain link fence around the pool, 50 high bush blueberries and three apple trees original to this 1850's farmhouse. I also have a vegetable garden and many perennial beds. Not everything has to be done in one fell swoop, and be deliberate about why you're planting something where you're planting it. For example, my hedge of serviceberries were put by the sidewalk to act as a barrier to blowing leaves, to add some privacy, to help with traffic noise and dirt from the street, as well as to add snacks for people walking by and to feed the birds. The persimmons in the back are to offer some shade to the pool while adding fall color. (I had to have a 6' diameter red maple cut down which had provided so much lovely shade.) The fruit will drop a month after the pool will be closed...same with the paw paws on the north side of the pool. The persimmons in the front are to help block my neighbor's oak leaves from blowing over here and becoming my problem...I guess I'm saying to plant with intention. I tried to make it so that I would have fresh fruit across months. I will start with honeyberries, asparagus, and rhubarb in May (?) and end with persimmons, quince, medlars and paw paws in November and December. My 50 blueberries actually can cause me stress when they are loaded and I can't get friends to come over and pick because I don't like to see things go to waste, and they are labor-intensive to pick. I've learned from that, and that is why I limited myself on the quantity of each plant. There will still be enough to share with friends, the neighbors and the food shelf, but I won't have to spend every last minute harvesting and preserving. Although I have six paw paws, they won't be ready until October, when most of the garden chores are completed and I will have time. Whew, I hope some of these ideas help some of you....See MoreEdible Landscaping on 2 acres
Comments (10)Of course there's a logical way to go about fitting things in. But let's start with better familiarization with the property. It would be helpful if you show a few scenes in order to give us a feel for what is there. In the following photo, I'm suggesting 4 positions to place the camera (red circles marked A,B,C,D) and red lines which indicate the span of the view desired. If you would take and post these pictures I think it would be a helpful starting point. The pictures should be a medium size ... not too small. Essentially, it looks like you wish to have a few nut trees, an orchard and a large garden. The garden should be large enough to add all those small things you list separately. There is probably not a cleared area large enough to contain the orchard as a single unit so you might end up with 2 or three smaller, separate orchards. (We don't know what can still be cleared.) The nut trees could be farthest from the house, the orchard a little closer, the garden closer yet and the herb garden probably very near the house. You haven't mentioned wanting any space for growing flowers, but if you discover this joy, you might at some point want to enlarge the vegetable garden with another "wing" for growing them....See Morelpinkmountain
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