HELP!! Roses are been stripped bare
loftus
19 years ago
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Comments (2)Yes to all your questions. Plant in as large a pot that you can handle. I use a tree pot which is as large or larger than a half barrel. I move it with a two wheeled dolly. J&P ships a large plastic bag with a wad of moss with their tree roses, or they did at one time. It's been years since I ordered a tree rose. Wet the moss and place it in the center of the canes. Place the bag over the canes and wet moss. I loosely secured the open bottom of the bag with a long twist tie. This creates a little greenhouse with high humidity and keeps the canes and leaf buds moist. When the buds begin to leaf you can remove the twist tie and allow the humidity to vent. After another day or two, remove the bag but by then it's probably blown away. I've successfully forced a number of tree roses and slow to break dormancy bushes this way. A thick wet sponge will work as well as the moss. Keep an eye on the moss and wet it as necessary....See MoreLet's discuss mounding bare-root roses!
Comments (8)Luckily my land is not THAT far; it's about a 30-to-40 minute drive from home (I don't drive fast, btw, and in any case, on snaky hilly roads,one sort of has to go slow...)I can keep tools there, in this big ,ugly metal construction built by the previous owner,but I wind up keeping the most-used ones in my car a lot of the time.Sadly, I have no place to stay over there, and in any case my DH and son have different enthusiasms! By mounding I mean the concept of protecting a newly -plante bare-root rose with a mound of material around it's base, placed so that only the tips of the canes stick out. Usually people say to use soil for this, so picture a mound of soil covering the graft union and the lower parts of the baby canes.So, it's like a mulch, protecting the roots a bit, but it's also protecting the canes.Now, for some reason, in my garden, I have had trouble with canes rotting under the mounds: well, to be honest, this only really happened that one year that I mentioned in my first post. Someone suggested using manure/organic matter as the mounding material (I believe it was a lady in New England, USA) Well, for me, this was a disaster. I lost so many baby roses that year; they got canker or just plain rot that spread down to the graft... This really spooked me. Last fall, I tried using peat moss, thinking it would be less prone to bacteria, but again got spooked, seeing how uber-soggy it became under the mounds.So, I un-mounded all of the babies, and re-mounded them , using a mixture of wine corks, pieces of styrofoam,held in place by gravel and sand.This worked. Clearly, it's important in my garden to keep the canes fairly dry and the roots moist.I say, IN MY GARDEN, because from various rose forums, I see that for many-most?-people, this cane-rot stuff has never been a problem! I suspect it may have something to do with the climate here. I think that it's not just low temperatures that come into play.Here in Italy, we can get some wild temperature fluxes, even from day to night, just because, when the sun comes out, it can be so hot. Now, in November, it's so low to the horizon, and besides, it's been raining so much,so it's a very stable environment for newly plante roses.But our winters can offer some dramatic temperature swings. To give an idea, last winter, we had some very heavy snow; at least a foot deep. During the days after it had fallen, the sun came out, and I remember shoveling deep snow,sweating heavily, wearing boots, snow pants (because of the wet, cold snow), and only a shirt on top! But then, the sun goes down,the temperature plunges,all the stuff that melted under the hot (relatively speaking) sun freezes into ice,and then can't really start melting again until the afternoon of the following day.Do you see where I'm going with this? My land, exposed to the south-west, is going to get quite warmed up during a sunny but cold winter day, and then freeze during the night. The road that I have to travel-facing north-could remain un-passable by me for a couple of days-or more, considering the extremes we've been having in weather in recent years.Instead, I think England tends to have a more consistent climate,; I don't think you'd have the same toasty-sun issues there that we have here in Italy. As you yourself say, Campanula, "everything shuts down into a hibernating limbo". Here, it often doesn't! I still have flowers;many roses still have leaves,most of them have the little leaf buds on them...my Okame cherry tree actually RE-BLOOMED. So, it's very confusing as to what the best course might be...which is why I started this thread in the first place.Discussing things can help clarify ones ideas,and I'm grateful to you and all forum members who participate. regards, bart...See MoreHelp! A bare root rose in December????
Comments (11)About 12 years ago I had an order of roses shipped from Pickering Nurseries to my Mom's house. They arrived in late November, as expected. (more or less!) The day I planted them it was snowing hard and there was a 1" deep crust of frozen soil I had to chop through. The following day it froze so hard it would not have been possible to dig without extraordinary effort. I planted the bud union 4" down and hilled the plants up a foot high with soil. Every one of those roses lived and thrived and is still going strong today. I don't think you will have any trouble with your new plants. However, if Hortico mailed these at the wrong time, I would call and complain....See MoreBare Root Roses - Take 3
Comments (2)I haven't planted any bare root roses in a couple of decades now, but I have some that I planted bare root in the 1980s that are still alive and bloom every year. (I dug them up and moved them with us when we moved here in 1999 and they also survived that.) I plant bare root roses pretty much the way Hippie Homemaker described. I do want to add that if you have dense, slow-draining clay soil, you need to either mound up the soil and plant the roses on the mound or berm or build raised beds with stone or wooden edgings to hold the growing medium in place and plant in those raised beds. Roses do not live long when grown at grade level in dense, heavily, highly compacted clay soils that are so common here in OK. They do great in raised beds or berms made by enriching the clay by adding lots of organic matter to improve drainage. The most common mistake with bare root roses is that either the stores or the purchasers let them get too cold or too dry while the plants still are in the packaging and I think that is one of the most common reasons that bare root roses fail to sprout, leaf out and grow after being transplanted into the ground. Good luck, Dawn...See Morewoolywoof
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