Cindee has been soooo kind to let us use her chatroom if the forum idea doesn't work... We'll have to each download a free program if we don't have it on our computers. It'll be much faster Cindee's way. Will play around with it before Saturday. This will be soooo much fun no matter how we do it. Thanks for letting me experiment with the idea. I've wanted to do this for quite some time! I love my Garden Junking friends! Bear Hugs! Kirk

Anyone can chat there anytime you want(-: The door is always open to all my gardening friends(-: Invite anyone to chat there with you if you want. The more the merrier(-: You are all the best!!! I love this forum and have had the best time here meeting people and learning new garden junking ideas!!!(-: Happy Thanksgiving!!!!! Here is a link that might be useful: cindees garden chatroom

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I have what I believe is the first generation HE3t, purchased in 2003, and on my machine, the heater only comes on in the Heavy Duty, Whitest Whites, or Sanitary cycles. The only time the heater will be used on the Normal cycle if the stain treat option is selected. On the HD or WW cycles, the temperature is "measured" one minute after the fill finishes. If the soil level is set to light, the heater will not come on ever. If the soil level is set to normal, the heater comes on if the water temp is below the set point (77 cold, 104 warm, 127 hot), but will only stay on up to 7 minutes. If the soil setting is high, then the heater will stay on up to 16 minutes. If the heater did not need to come on after the first minute, it will not come on later in the wash cycle, even if the temperature dips below the set temp. If the heater turned off before it times out, it will not turn back on during the wash cycle. If the stain treat option is turned on, then the wash cycle is extended (on all soil levels) and the heater will stay on longer. It will, however, not turn back on if it turned off due to reaching the set temperature.