Coast Redwood in Central Florida?
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Comments (25)At the far north end of the range the redwoods are expected to maintain themselves indefinitely, and where present are dominating the stand(s) - but there is more competition from other species. There is effectively no sexual reproduction of coast redwood there, western hemlock coming up abundantly instead. So, it appears the redwood does not spread north because of the native environment being too suitable for sexual reproduction of competing species and quite unsuitable for its own seedlings. We were taught by the man who wrote the book that the limiting factors in its native range: to the north, fire and inland-south, water. The ice age migrations have rearranged species distribution such that the native ranges have settled to places that rarely get really cold, so we are now experimenting in ornamental plantings to determine cold fitness. But we know the redwoods migrated south into MX to find temps in the range to which it is adapted, rather than, say, migrating upward like many trees did in the Marble Mt Wilderness-Siskiyou ranges to escape the ice and cold-dryness. Resin, I'm sure I have a paper like that around, but we know the planet is warming and will continue to do so as we burn fossil fuels, so its a good bet that 500-year cold events are becoming less likely. Dan...See MoreCoast Redwoods and Giant Sequoias in the Southeast
Comments (55)" There is also a very large, and interesting plantation of them in Maui, not the southeast, but still a really warm humid climate" Nope! Wrong again! The redwoods there are mostly planted above 5000', a climate where dewpoints are always << 60F, thus nights are going to be in the 50s at worse, and even 30s and 40s in winter. Highs probably never hit 80f, even during the worst heatwaves. Not at all a "really warm humid climate". A few are a bit lower, down to 3000', but their growth seems to become abnormal. Even there, summer are as cool or cooler than Boston's!...See MoreTangerines for Central CA Coast???
Comments (10)You may very well not get enough heat for some citrus to obtain optimum flavor. You will need to just plant a few for trial to see. Satsuma is know for needing less than some others. You will do better with Bears Lime than Key Lime. Bears is more tolerant of frost. Ordinary grapefruit will most certainly not get enough heat to be tolerable and you MIGHT find you have enough heat for Oro Blonco and Melogold. These are hybrids with Pomellos and have a much higher sugar content. Mine are only good if picked very late in the season. Have you considered other fruit than citrus? You are in prime area for Gravenstein apples and I would think the new low chill cherries (Royal Lee and Mini Royal) would do wonderfully there. There are quite a few peaches that would work there as well....See MoreCoast Redwood as Tropical Trees
Comments (24)FWIW...and only because the thread was already bumped. My coast redwoods saw the lowest temps they've ever seen in my garden. They only had light mulch and no special protection. Low of 6F (-14.5C) last week w/snow before the brief thaw, then lows of 3F (-16.1 C) a couple nights ago in a severe advective freeze with incredible winds, and 8F last night. 8' 'Soquel', several years in ground (5 IIRC), fully established: absolutely no sign of damage 4' 'Swarthmore Hardy'/'Chapel Hill', 3 years in ground: very minor dieback of oldest needles 2' 'Swarthmore Hardy'/'Chapel Hill', 1.5 year in ground: somewhat more extensive needle injury, still 18" 'Atlanta', 1 year in ground (first winter): minor signs of injury on a handful of needles. Would appear to be at least as hardy as 'Chapel Hill' Yes I'm aware more damage could show up later; but from my general experience other than a few special plants (olives are notorious) if there isn't sign of damage in 24h and there isn't the likelihood of bark injury (there isn't) you should be ok. My most tender experimental BLEs are showing damage. BBoy the Azara I argued with you about has about 50% foliar death...whether the stems were killed to the degree that it will be killed off I don't know yet, probably won't be sure until spring. My Escallonia 'Appleblossom' has shown rather similar damage in past cold winters and comes roaring back in the spring, so we'll see....See Moredonn_
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