Mixing Marvin elevate and essential.
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Comments (4)This question is asked every so often so I am going to link to a thread from about 8 months back: https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5905964/mixing-marvin-elevate-and-essential also quoting HomeSealed reply from that thread: HomeSealed Exteriors, LLC 8 months ago The Essential line is less expensive. Its not uncommon to mix and match, however there are some design differences, so its important to plan accordingly from both the interior and exterior. For example, you may have them in different rooms, but if they are next to each other on the exterior, the difference may be noticeable.... It just requires a little more planning to make sense of it. I can think of some great reasons to use Marvin Ultimate, but if your only reason for using Ultimate rather than Essential or Elevate is to get the easy clean coating, that wouldn't be one of them. If you really want the easy clean coating, and your dealer is telling you that you can't get the coating on either Essential or Elevate, push back and tell the dealer that you really want the coating on those windows. Make the dealer earn the sale. Marvin is all about custom products and customer satisfaction and they will make it work if you push it a little....See MoreAndersen A series vs Marvin Essential
Comments (6)I got to say that Andersen A series is one nice window. I really like it. The Elevate is ok, seems like the Essential with added on wood trim. But that Andersen is nice. I already purchased one Marvin Essential, I'll get it in and evaluate it. Maybe install it to see how I like it before deciding which direction I want to go....See MoreFeedback on Marvin Essential (Owners or Installers)
Comments (77)@bethesdabeth We don't deal in any products that deliberately engage in an engineered obsolescence foundation, but pretty much every product that is used in track built new construction willfully does. Combine that with every appliance (as high end as you want to go with sub zero and beyond) in the home as well as every other material except the wiring, framing, and concrete...they all have dramatically shorter predictions than you reference. As does everything these days. The windows that lasted over 100 years from before don't exist. Mostly because the missing calculus from that lifespan is MAINTENANCE. Yes, that 100 year old window was harvested from a very dense timber strand...but it only makes it that long when its covered in about 17 coats of paint. Same with the siding. You leave any uncovered or finished wood exposed in a climate with any wet season, it's gonna fail. Obviously...you know this. But I feel like basic realism in the projections is worthy for context. Even that aluminum window, in climate with some rain, will experience some sort of finish degradation over time that would make it visually an eyesore. @dottt1 My college stays were spent at a school at over 7,000 feet so I understand the strength of the sun. The sun is stronger at that altitude but the overall strength (i.e. seasonal exposure) is less. I would say that the windows that are closer to the Equator still get more UV exposure in aggregate than most high altitude applications. Fiberglass, based on the ability to pultrude narrow and heavy mill thickness profiles, does have the ability to run some narrow frames. Most vinyl manufactures will not attempt to design a narrow profile with attention to profile width and visible glass because it is cheaper and easier to use a larger profile for profile stability. That said, there are several vinyl suppliers that will provide similar VT (visible transmittance) numbers as fiberglass windows (Ex. VT of 62 for both the Elevate with clear glass as well as Okna and Sunrise). To your question, is the Marvin Essentials a "bad" windows, no. Obviously it missed the mark for you in several capacities and I don't necessarily disagree with your opinion if those criteria in question, are of importance. That said, in the larger comparison to the products available in the marketplace, the Marvin Essentials in not a bad window. Is the Elevate a better looking window, yes. Do I recommend the Essentials over the Elevate, no. Before the accusations of being Marvin "homer" are levied, I don't know when the last Marvin job we sold was as a point of reference. The "best" window depends solely on the needs, necessities, and aesthetics of the client. That is as varied and diverse as the construction out there. There are good products in every category and if folks spent the same amount of time researching less "sexy" products like windows, siding, etc....as they did kitchen countertops...they'd probably land on better products. On the average, of course. Hope this helps. Happy Thursday....See MoreMarvin Infinity vs Essential
Comments (18)Significant difference: Infinity is sold and installed by only factory-selected exclusive dealers while both essential and Elevate are sold by lumber yards and other non-installing dealers (not always the case as some dealers have their own installation people or others they recommend but have chosen other products to include in their portfolio). They are different products with the common thread being: they are both fiberglass or what Marvin calls Ultrex. Also to earlier post about testing a large size DH (48 x 96): this keeps the cost of testing down to any window smaller than the tested size and usually the largest manufactured size with a warranty....See Moreamanda_beshears
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