ROSES.. UK/Europe - Part 2..
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Comments (14)I'm wondering, Carol, how long you will have at each of the gardens - two days isn't much to do all four. We easily did both Sissinghurst and Great Dixter in a single day. We gave a day to Wisley. It's bit, and a terrific garden but we were unimpressed with their rather ordinary rose garden - the long, long, long border and rock garden were much better. We went to Mottisfont several different days, and I would think it needs at least half a day, if possible - hope you aren't too jet lagged on your first day in England. Mottisfont's rose gardens aren't huge, but there is so much to look at and it is so beautifully done that I couldn't stop looking! I think it might be open a bit later than usual in June, if you are staying nearby. Janelle and I did fine on our first day in the UK without a nap, and really adjusted without much jet lag. I slept in a bit later than usual the first few mornings - she didn't. When I went to London with my husband some years ago, I didn't do as well - literally fell asleep on my feet while visiting a museum. Maybe it was an advantage to be outside in fresh air, sunshine, and gardens rather than inside. I got sick on the trip to London, but was utterly healthy and thriving during the garden trip. In any case, your trip sounds wonderful. I think you've said that your husband isn't really a rose garden kind of guy, so how nice that you are getting these two days plus a day at Kew. My husband isn't much for gardens, but he was pretty enthusiastic about Kew. I still think that Kew is a great choice, but have to say that we heard good things about St. Albans from the people on Clair Martin's Great Rosarians trip last year. It wasn't open to the general public but was open to RNRS members and tour groups. We could always have joined the RNRS and gotten to see it, but we just didn't make the time. Anita...See MoreVirused roses in Europe
Comments (15)I am interested in what is the natural spread of rose viruses. In designing any experiment one normally calculates the number of samples required to obtain a result that has a 95% confidence level. I think the results of this type of calculation for rose virus spread are interesting. If the natural spread in a field is 1% a year and one checked the field at the end of one year, one would have to examine 2377 plants to be able to report the results as having a 95% confidence level (1.0 +/- 0.4)%. If the natural spread in a field is 4% a year, and one checked the field at the end of one year; one would have to examine 9220 plants to be able to report the results as having a 95% confidence level (4.0 +/- 0.4)%. To be able to report a (4 +/- 1)% spread, the number of plants should be 1475. To be able to report a (4 +/- 2)% spread number, one would need to examine 369 plants. To be able to report a (4 +/- 3)% spread number, one would need to examine 164 plants. The number of plants required for a quantitative study are probably larger than what most researchers would want to undertake. Another approach is a qualitative study to see if the spread is non zero. If designed correctly, positive results of such a study would have a definite meaning but negative results would not. An example of such a study appears to be the published paper by R. H. Converse and A. B. Bartlett, Plant Disease Reporter, volumn 63, pages 441-444, (1979). They studied 21 wild rose plants from 17 Oregon, U.S.A. locations. 5 plants out of the 20 that were tested by agar-gel diffusion (1 plant was not tested) were found to have tobacco streak virus. The positive testing plants came from 4 of the 17 sites (2 positive out of 2 tested from one site; 1 out of 1 tested from another site; 1 out of 3 from another; and 1 out of 1 from another). (The wild rose was not identified in the paper, I suspect that it was R. Setigera.) Here is a link that might be useful: Link to do your own calculations...See MoreUS 'found' roses available in Europe?
Comments (27)Indian Love Call has the prettiest wood and hips. I have always loved how the cool temps combined with brilliant winter sun turn the surfaces the sun hits of both a deep purple while the surfaces not receiving direct sun remain deeper green. Those purple and green shades set off the large, brilliant orange hips to perfection. Later in winter, the purple fades to oranges, reds and yellows before the foliage all turns brown and falls, leaving the purple/green wood with sprays of orange hips. I don't have any photos of that, unfortunately, as they're all unscanned 35 mm slides, but this is an Indian Love Call "child". Her strong, smooth canes with their "Basye's Legacy" fall coloring, carry through to further generations, as does her lovely colored foliage. These are pieces of some of her children and grand children. Climbing Yellow Sweetheart can produce amazing basal growth. Thick, strong, tall shoots crowned with enormous flower heads. I had it in a five gallon can waiting for somewhere (which never arrived) to plant it. The thing grew through the drain holes and began pushing these types of shoots. It really reminded me of the type of sumptious flowering shoots the Noisette, Allister Stella Gray used to push for me. Having the excitement and fun of "rediscovering" a "lost" Ralph Moore rose with Jim Delahanty made it even more special. It's actually a cousin of Annie Laurie McDowell's....See MoreBeautiful 2020 roses in my garden - part 2
Comments (137)Bayarea girl, I was just looking over the thread again and I'm scratching my head trying to figure out HOW you take care of so many roses?! lol. Wow. Great job, really! Sheila, I noticed your photo above, I always enjoy your rose photos with the house in the background with the tile roof and the grasses in front and the beautiful mature tree in the background. Very beautiful scene!...See MoreFire zone 8, north London, UK
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