Identification: found moss rose (pics)
Melissa Northern Italy zone 8
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Comments (31)Treasure Trail THRIVES HERE!!!I have one in a large pot on Fortuniana, also a smaller one in a pot own root. I will post a picture of from this evening... I lost my phones usb cord, so sorry for the webcam pic. One of my Favorite roses! Just had to walk 10 feet outside to drag it inside. Mel Hulse,I tried twice before it lived. Never has amounted to much here. Lady Moss and Condoleezza do alright here not worth writing home about.Better grafted. Fa's Spotted moss also grows in my yard, not doing the best. But, with the cold December it is filling out.Some black spot on it.Not grafted. Fakir's Delight is an octopus here. VERY thorny like many mosses, close to 10 feet spread I am guessing. Almost ALL of the old moss roses have tried have not lived here grafted or not. Warm and Fuzzy grows here Nicely. Clean. I DO NOT SPRAY! I will say that almost all of my Ralph Moore moss minis have to be replaced like clockwork and really are not worth growing here own root.Grafted ones are better, but not even close to happy in most cases, a few exceptions. I do it for the pollen. I would not encourage most mini mosses in Florida and only a good handful of moderns. I have tried about 40 - 50 types total I am guessing. Kim, I think I will have to try Unconditional Love anyone mention it on RHA? Regards, Andrew Grover St Pete Fl...See MoreWanted: pics of your found roses
Comments (17)I found this unknown centifolia here on the grounds of the Nat'l Arboretum while scouting around for lost roses. It is a survivor, contracting only spring mildew in the greenhouse; the plants seem virtually immune to blackspot, which explains why they managed to persist here for so long. The plants didn't manage to bloom where they were growing because of the poor conditions; I found them in July with only blasted buds hanging on. I first thought they might be the damask 'Bella Donna' because it is similar, and commonly found here, but something about the foliage and bloom still seemed naggingly centifolia-like and I went searching for something of that class that might fit its description. From that search, I believe there is a possibility it is the cultivar 'Reine de Saxe', but I'd be open to other suggestions. The habit is quite vigorous and somewhat lax without pruning, the bloom period seems to be exceptionally long for an OGR in this hot climate, and the fragrance is absolutely divine (and the buds have a lovely balsam aroma when touched). Sorry for the poor photograph - it was taken with my cell phone and emailed home. I'll try to take better pictures with a real camera this year :)...See MoreRequest rose ID (no pics)
Comments (4)Ingrid, I forgot to put 'Mme. Hardy' on the "roses it can't be" list. If nothing else, MH is a tall growing rose, as well as different in bud. Actually, I suspect there aren't that many candidates. Gallicas are mostly pink-red-purple-lilac hues; there aren't many pale ones. And this rose doesn't look have a hybridized look about it, so I can exclude Bourbons, Hybrid Perpetuals and certainly anything of predominantly oriental blood. It's not an Alba (tall and upright, smooth canes, thorns sparse and strong, blueish or grayish foliage) or a moss rose. It might possibly be a Centifolia or a Damask, though Centifolias tend to be lanky and nastily thorny, while this rose doesn't have the narrow tubular receptacle or the long fringed sepals that characterize most of the Damasks I'm acquainted with. So the field is narrower than you might think, or at least so it seems to me. I wouldn't have put the question if I thought it had an impossibly broad range of likely answers. labrea, Was that the site in a language you didn't know that made you want to make an order? I finally found out that it was Finnish (one of the few non-Indo-European languages of Europe, and nastily incomprehensible to just about everyone who's not a Finn). It's spectacular! I wanted all those Gallicas too! Melissa...See MoreHow can I identify a found/unknown/mystery rose?
Comments (0)Image by: Cecilia "While we always look with pleasure at the petals of a rose, frequently they are of the least importance in deciding where we are to classify our plant." -- Mrs. Frederick L. Keays, from the 1938 American Rose Society Annual Identifying roses isn't always easy. Some are very distinctive and a photo of the bloom alone will do. Others require more information, and some may never be reunited with their original names. It is helpful in such cases to assign a study name to your rose. The list below suggests some of the information that might be helpful with the identification. In describing your rose, please include as much detail as possible and do include any distinctive characteristics the rose may have that aren't covered here. Do what you can with the photo suggestions that appear directly beneath the respective plant parts, given your photographic resources and access. Combine elements where convenient, and include a recognizable object for scale - a coin, ruler, etc. STUDY NAME: These are always placed in double quotes, i.e. "Grandma's Pink Rose."BUDS: shape (round, elongated), texture (smooth, mossy. If mossy, how fragrant is the moss?), shape of sepals (pointed, leaf-like) *Photo: Side view, mature enough to show some color. BLOOM: color (incl. reverse of petal), size, shape, petal count, petal shape, stamen and pistil color, fading or darkening of aging bloom *Photo: Top view, side view, cluster view (if applicable) FRAGRANCE: none, slight, medium, moderately strong, strong; describe the fragrance BLOOM DISTRIBUTION: are blooms single or clustered REPEAT BLOOM: none, one, a few, frequent HIPS: shape, color, diameter, quantity *Photo: Side view, ripe or unripe as the season permits LEAVES: color (light, dark, med, matte or glossy), size, texture (smooth, leathery, rough, fuzzy). How many leaflets, any fragrance, any needle-like spines underneath, well or sparsely foliated? *Photo: 2 leaves carefully pulled from stem with stipule intact, one face up, the other face down. LEAFLETS: Shape, size. Are they fairly uniform in size? If not, describe how they vary. Are they closely or widely spaced along the midrib? STIPULE: please describe using as much detail as possible - shape, size, color, any red striping, describe edges (plain, toothed, ragged, fringed, feathery) THORNS: shape, size, color, many/few, straight/hooked, bristles, all the same or different sizes on the same cane, do they break off easily or are they strong? CANES: color, slender and pliable, arching, stout and upright *Photo: include a few thorns GROWTH HABIT & FORM: height of plant, bush, shrub, climber, ground cover *Photo: entire plant VIGOR & HEALTH: slow or fast grower, any diseases? HISTORY: Approximate age of plant - try to date the rose based on the age of objects in the surrounding environment, i.e., a cemetery headstone date, approximate age of any structure or development near which it was found, or developmental level of roadside (country backroad, freeway bypass, etc.) by which it was found. What is known about the history othis rose? A lot of these old roses have stories behind them - ask around! CONDITION OF PLANT: Has the rose been well-cared-for, neglected, or abused? What type of soil was it growing in, was it in full sun, part (or full) shade? USDA zoneFAQ compiled by AndreaRose, Cecilia_MD7a, Wendy_in_SD, Sylvia, and Mosaic....See MoreMelissa Northern Italy zone 8
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